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    #41
    Originally posted by jdg364 View Post
    Anyone have enough moisture to put down fall anhydrous? The price is pretty attractive compared to 46-00 being quoted at $900+/mt
    46 1080 here.

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      #42
      Originally posted by jwab
      So am I out to lunch by thinking, how do you save nutrients by killing a plant that will die and go back into the earth? I can see saving a bit of moisture though.
      I tend to agree. if not removed it's still there. Maybe more, remember the whole green manure concept?

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        #43
        It takes nutrients to grow a plant

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          #44
          Originally posted by jdg364 View Post
          Anyone have enough moisture to put down fall anhydrous? The price is pretty attractive compared to 46-00 being quoted at $900+/mt
          Ur 3 days behind, its $1100 now….

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            #45
            Originally posted by makar View Post
            46 1080 here.
            Yes very similar to what I was quoted today. $1070 for 46.

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              #46
              46 was quoted today 1060 take home now.

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                #47
                Originally posted by jwab
                But if it’s not removed how are those nutrients removed? To me they are just in a different form.
                My take as well. There has never been a more amazing free cover crop over much of western Canada. The soil is happy. And then everyone sprays out the free cover crop of growing living roots, because most guys think it doesn’t look like it should, which of course is barren and various shades of brown, tan, gold, not green.

                I get the moisture use in a year like this I guess. But if it was moisture use ppl were concerned about, would they have not sprayed it far before it got so out of hand?

                Lots of guys still spraying the free cover crop, days before frost will do it for free? Yes, perennial weed control, but most fields including ones I drove a cross, have virtually no perennial weeds.

                I think it’s just the appeal and the peer pressure to have a field that doesn’t look “messy” or uncared for. So blow another ten or more buck an acre?

                Maybe the govt will come through with an ad hoc and cover the cost of spraying out the best thing possible for the soil in many years, in an industry that is sorely lacking a grasp of soil health.

                I’m always missing something, but in this case, I’m REALLY missing something I guess?
                Last edited by Sheepwheat; Oct 8, 2021, 07:42.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by jwab
                  But if it’s not removed how are those nutrients removed? To me they are just in a different form.
                  This happened in the drought of 2001-2002 , we left it one year to let the frost take it out.
                  Those areas showed up big time the following spring .
                  Yes the nutrients aren’t totally gone , but they are not there available for next year from what I seen .
                  Will depend on breakdown and weather for sure .
                  The nutrients may not be lost but they certainly were not readily available for the next crop .
                  Hopefully all that plant material in some fields does break down for guys for next year . Fertilizer is an awfully dig expense for next years crop .
                  Would be interesting to see some tissue tests from those areas next June compared to areas with minimal regrowth. I may do that in that strip along with a soil test this fall .
                  May see a difference, may not

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                    #49
                    Almost all the btos have sprayed their fields. Why I don't know . Like running their toys across field and supporting chem companies.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by agstar77 View Post
                      Almost all the btos have sprayed their fields. Why I don't know . Like running their toys across field and supporting chem companies.
                      Here they did it in between draining thirty acre sloughs, pushing the natural windbreaks and drift reducers, and it seems like lots of them would far rather have an eight foot deep trench in the landscape, than a half acre pothole that oh the horror, you have to go around! So now they have a three hundred yard trench to farm around. Looks good from the road I guess?

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