Six residents in Watson care home die.

[walterm]

LTC flu's and lockdowns have been going on for ever and now Covid but still no mandatory HEPA or ventilation systems for these air born issues. That should have been implemented years ago in both LTC and schools. Need building codes or health codes changed.

[bucket]

Seniors long term care[LTC] here got Covid... last week was told... 20 some positive... none got seriously sick... recovering nicely, the vaccine did help here,,,
But
neighbours who were not vaxed... died last weekend... very heartbreaking to say the least.

Everyone entering LTC does die... a true unavoidable fact of life.

Quality of life is important... Covid does mess that up... Seriously. So does the Flu... etc... LTC health lockdowns were common place before Covid... if not feeling well, don't go near LTC! Same as always!!

Cheers

And in most cases sooner than later. I figure after 50, time is no longer on my side. Very few make 100.

[jazz]

It all matters.

Because if this vaccine isnt working or was developed for a strain that no longer exists and if it has more side effect than we are being told like Norway, Sweden, iceland and Denmark are finding, we need to know.

It matters because they want to put this into little kids next. The goal posts have moved from 70% vaxxed to 120% vaxxed. A percentage of the triple vaxxed in Israel are starting to die now.

[agstar77]

So long , your 90 days can't come soon enough.

[Grahamp]

I am not sure of your point though Sheep. Do you truly believe there would have a been fewer deaths if they weren’t vaccinated? Also the vaccine rate is unknown at the facility. The 93% is the vaccine rate of 80+ people in the entire central east region.

I am pro vaccine, but very opposed to any restrictions for non vaccinated people. But I also think you are crazy if you are older than 75 and don’t get it. Are you really worried about unknown long term consequences?

[foragefarmer]

It’s not terribly hard to find details. Especially when you first hand know someone involved. I am not trying to be a hero. I am really, really ticked off that information like this gets smothered. If I put that post on CBC, it would be tossed for misinformation. Yeah, well tell that to the families of the dead VAXXED people.

It’s all just sick. I share it, because enough already. There is truth. Smothering it is murder.

Not a personal attack, stay focused!

But I was looking for the details to the questions Twocentsworth is asking on his excellent post.

Your original post is very short on substance, if again you are looking to be tossed off of Agriville's Marketing forum, such as you are on CBC your original post is not a contender.

[Herc]

Let’s just give it to all the children so we can find out what those long term risks will be.

The point is it doesn’t work, so smothering society is not justified!!

Still think it’s about a virus??

I’m on the fence about the vaccine, especially children, but if theres more to it than a virus its over our heads anyways. Look at the history of humanity, you won’t like what you find…..

[Grahamp]

Let’s just give it to all the children so we can find out what those long term risks will be.

The point is it doesn’t work, so smothering society is not justified!!

Still think it’s about a virus??

I agree with part of your sentiment. I think people under 40 should be concerned with long term risks. I don’t think children should get it as their risk of death is essentially 0. However if you are 53 and overweight(which seems to put you much more at risk than almost anything else) then I think you are on the “get the vaccine” side of the risk benefit analysis.

Finally you can certainly argue that the vaccine is not as effective as it should be, that adverse reactions are a problem, or the government is overreacting
to the case numbers but can you really argue that the vaccine is not reducing hospitalizations? Every provinces numbers show a much higher percentage of non-vaccinated people in the hospital and ICU’s and that is not adjusted for higher percentage of vaccinated people.

I think it is a perfectly valid argument to say why bother getting vaccinated when the government is locking down everyone when there are case outbreaks. I think it is also valid to be outraged that your private medical decisions are being made public which is supposed to be against the law. But I don’t see how you can say the vaccines are not keeping a large percentage of people out of the hospital.

[Grahamp]

Oh I know what has happened and the reason it did was people didn’t open their eyes and react soon enough.
Communication at that time was not what it is now so there is no excuse to be late to the party so to speak.

Grahamp, has the hospitalized percentage really changed that much since the jab campaign started, just asking as I’m not sure.

According to their respective provincial governments BC, Alberta, and Saskatchewan are all running about 75-80 % of the hospitalizations are unvaccinated people. When you then consider roughly 75% of the people are vaccinated you have 25 percent of the population accounting for 80% of the hospitalizations. I am sceptical of the government as anyone but I really don’t see all three provinces cooking their books to entice people to take a vaccine they know doesn’t work.

I don’t know what the hospitalization numbers are now compared to other times during the pandemic.

[sumdumguy]

It seems that the vaccinated ones are more afraid than the non-vaccinated. They are only meeting vaccinated friends outdoors. Good grief, I wonder what they got vaccinated for. They say they are doing it so they can travel, so they can freely participate in society….but no they are staying away from other vaccinated people and their grandchildren, even at Thanksgiving. What can one say?