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    #13
    Originally posted by LWeber View Post
    https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/71-607-x/71-607-x2021004-eng.htm
    Thanks.
    How did you get it into the sort order and format you printed above? Did you create that yourself from the data? I'm not seeing any options to create that within.

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      #14
      Larry, late this summer when you discussed your yield model, you wouldn't actually tell us the number you calculated.

      Are you willing to share yet?

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        #15
        Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
        Larry, late this summer when you discussed your yield model, you wouldn't actually tell us the number you calculated.

        Are you willing to share yet?
        I'm at 11.413,849 - have been since August...

        I just sorted the data from STATSCAN - high/low - it is a new website and a bit convoluted so far - but more info than the previous....

        last year's production is the least of my worries...

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          #16
          I agree Larry, we are still on a extreme drought situation in all of western Canada and upper states. If there ever was a time to hold grain for a explosion in prices into spring it might be this year. Not saying things won’t correct but it would take some kind of black swan event to drive prices lower.

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            #17
            I really wonder how much uncommitted canola production is actually out in the farmyard. We have 2/3 not sold but Im thinking we are in the minority because we had very little priced before harvest. Im guessing 6mmt is already priced and committed out of 12.

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              #18
              Originally posted by BreadWinner View Post
              Not saying things won’t correct but it would take some kind of black swan event to drive prices lower.
              Not sure if you noticed there are swarm of black swans (or buzzards) circling over this economy.

              In 2008 it just took one investment bank that few people ever heard of to crash it. Now we have dozens of such weak points in this global economy and the leverage has to be 10X higher.

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                #19
                Lots of 12 to 15 dollar canola has to be delivered or contracts not filled. But it's funny trucks moved at harvest and when guys filled you knew the trucks stopped. Heavy contract guys kept hauling.

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                  #20
                  Originally posted by BreadWinner View Post
                  I really wonder how much uncommitted canola production is actually out in the farmyard. We have 2/3 not sold but Im thinking we are in the minority because we had very little priced before harvest. Im guessing 6mmt is already priced and committed out of 12.
                  I would say you are very close on both numbers , most guys here price 20% of average yields . Well this year that is now 80% . So that leaves only 20% unpriced .
                  And Larry’s number of 11 ish is where it will end up .
                  But I doubt stats can will drop it below 13
                  Last edited by furrowtickler; Oct 11, 2021, 15:08.

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                    #21
                    I’m holding off sales until January, by then most contracts will have been hauled in and demand will be realized. Looking to start sales on wheat at $14, canola $25, oat $8. January USDA will be a pivotal report setting the tone for the remainder of crop year as next year’s acres will start to play a role. For now my targets are still moving.

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                      #22
                      Average price for exports of refined canola oil in August was $2,067.43 CAD/MT

                      In this environment it is clear that you charge whatever the market will bear. Thus the wide range of prices in Larry's chart.

                      The 14 pails or so sent to Oklahoma from Ontario must be weapons grade.

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                        #23
                        Originally posted by farming101 View Post
                        Average price for exports of refined canola oil in August was $2,067.43 CAD/MT

                        In this environment it is clear that you charge whatever the market will bear. Thus the wide range of prices in Larry's chart.

                        The 14 pails or so sent to Oklahoma from Ontario must be weapons grade.
                        Plutonium enriched non GMO...lol

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                          #24
                          A few things kinda stick out lately
                          Oil price , I remember back when oil was well over $100 several years ago , the word was $200 and would never fall below $100 again ...

                          Also nearly every time the chatter gets overly bullish on crop prices , something out of left field happens that no one seen coming and the new high floor levels collapse.

                          This may be “different this time” but it seems nearly every time things get too bullish , the bottom falls out

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