Farmers and a wealth tax

[makar]

It’s time to get some of this crap off of commodity marketing and stick to the subject. So what do you think about the recent run up in oats lately? Is it sustainable.? By the way I’m on my 2nd spiced rum.

The first spiced rum i had was my last, probably did in the plant I dumped it in.

[burnt]

Chances are pretty good that the NonDemocratParty will jump in bed with the Liberalinnameonly party to impose a wealth tax on Canadians. Who will they hit? What do you think will happen? It could put farmers in their line of sight. Are wealth taxes actually asset taxes? Farmers have a lot of assets. This could really hurt us.

https://www.taxpayer.com/petitions/stop-the-wealth-tax

I have thought for some time now that taxes and regulatory burdens will make farmland too costly to keep. So by turning those screws, they won't have to use force to get landowners off their properties.

As land values skyrocket,so will taxes. Hyper-inflated land values are a win-win for government and their Marxist overlords.

It has been a slow, but steady process developing ever since the U.N. formalized it in writing in the 70s. It's called cultural Marxism - we have all been guilty of accepting the insidious changes that are going to strangle our historical free enterprise.

Sodbuster, I hate to tell you otherwise, but the price of our commodities is obviously highly important, it's nothing in comparison to the train coming down the track at us.

Why did Freeland, Trudeau, numerous government heads publicly talk about the Great Reset?

Would you have believed just 18 months ago that we would see normal, healthy Canadians barred from leaving Canada? Or denied entry into a restaurant?

[Guest]

It’s time to get some of this crap off of commodity marketing and stick to the subject. So what do you think about the recent run up in oats lately? Is it sustainable.? By the way I’m on my 2nd spiced rum.

Try Flora De Cana 7 year
You will never drink that spiced swill again!

[parsley]

Have any of the ag orgs in Canada shares or submitted or hinted at, or compiled any policy on a rebuttal or a defense against a Federal wealth-tax money-grab? Or ending the capital-gains tax exemption? Or a death tax? pars

[parsley]

Most things we worry about never materialize. The Trudeau/Singh alliance could be kinda scarey but surely the senate would pull the rug out before these guys could go really rogue.

You’re dreaming. 😀. Skippy is going to be desperate for money. They can’t even afford the printer ink to run off CAD$ And all the Lib Senators will fall in line to vote for taxing farms with Quebec at a relaxed rate, of course.

[parsley]

“I have thought for some time now that taxes and regulatory burdens will make farmland too costly to keep. So by turning those screws, they won't have to use force to get landowners off their properties.”

Well said. I agree Burnt. So maybe farm-orgs need to establish a municipal tax ceiling, lowered or maintained as it is... and due to Covid stress, and climate change stress/expenditures 😶, to stall or stave off any tax increases. And keep it circulating in the minds of MP’s and MLA’s? I think future tax payable is going to be horrendous. Need charts reflecting low tax rates tied to the cost of inflation

[parsley]

I receive a monthly newsletter from China. This is an excerpt from it that you may find interesting:

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farmland protection and improvement

The latest land use survey shows that total arable land had fallen by nearly 6 percent by end 2019, or 7.5 million ha, compared to a decade previously. Total arable area has been kept above the ‘redline’ of 120 million ha set by the central government, yet the downward trend offers policymakers no comfort.

Green projects allegedly outstripped urban and industrial development in eating away at farmland. Converted from farmland, 7 million ha of forest and grassland help localities meet their ecological targets but threaten arable acreage.

Catering to changing tastes and the lure of cash crops encourages diversification away from staples. This is another headache for policymakers. Farmland for key grain, oil and vegetable production will be prioritised in planning, with curbs on ‘non-ag’ and ‘non-grain’ use of farmland such as for orchard/plantation crops of fruit, tea and rubber. New rollout rules ‘with teeth’ came into effect on 1 September, raising penalties for illegal use of arable land.

An equally important focus is farmland quality. The farmland improvement project, aiming to turn low-quality farmland into well-serviced, fertile, disaster-resilient and environmental-friendly plots, is approaching its 2022 milestone. It is also time for localities to rethink their strategies: merely focusing on expanding areas, some ‘farmland of high quality' does not have the expected quality and sustainability. Poor maintenance and insufficient funding are the main challenges.

A new round of farmland improvement plans for 2021-30 was released by MARA, furthering the development target to 2030, by which time 80 million ha of high-quality farmland should be ready to produce over 560 million tonnes of grain annually. The plan also stresses sustainability in farmland use and maintenance, and classifies farmland nationwide into seven zones based on location and natural conditions, with targeted development goals.

source 1, source 2, source 3

closer monitoring for the pig industry

MARA has identified the sow population as the key indicator of production. The latest plan to regulate pig population sets 41 million as the normal level of the national sow herd, to ensure 55 million tonnes of annual pork output. Detailed numbers for normal levels and lower limits of the sow population were calculated for each province, whose performance will be monitored. Localities should reduce the numbers of low-productivity sows when their population runs high; and provinces with low pig populations will be warned to design measures to restore sow herds.

Large-scale farms are also prioritised by policy interventions. All farms with over 500 head annual output should be registered with MARA, with their pig herd under close monitoring. Given the sheer number of those farms, over 170,000 nationwide, successful monitoring will be challenging but can provide a powerful indicator for market forecasts and early warning.

Leading pig companies are encouraged to incorporate medium and small farms into their businesses, a model long championed by MARA. Having survived the worst times of the African swine fever pandemic, big companies are seen as key to modern pig farming, disease prevention and control, as well as processing and distribution.
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I was looking at this central planning of farms with an eye as to how taxation in Canada could be lowered, or stalled, for different reasons. Pars

[jazz]

“I have thought for some time now that taxes and regulatory burdens will make farmland too costly to keep. So by turning those screws, they won't have to use force to get landowners off their properties.”

You can bet the Libs are trying to craft a policy that targets only a certain area like farmers and not quebec hydro or GTA housing.

It will probably come in the guise of environmental regs on something. As with the carbon tax they have shown that any whacko env policy can be pushed through and go unchallenged even in the courts.