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    Millions upon millions of cars mostly making short commuter trips results in cars with all that expensive technology sitting and not doing much most of the day anyway. 23 hours parked, and less than 1 hour driving in many cases.

    But they have a large battery that could have other uses. I am not sure what will happen, but it is part of the discussion as we decarbonize.

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      Originally posted by ALBERTAFARMER4 View Post
      I just don't understand the concept of taking a useful vehicle and turning it into a stationary paperweight in your garage to power your house. A car has tires, wheels, brakes, air bags, sound system, air conditioning, aerodynamic design, battery pack that is designed to optimize energy to density. It just doesn't make sense to use it to power a house or grid. The stationary battery can be more efficient, have better latency, and more battery cycles. It just seems to me like using your iPhone as a hammer, like it kinda works but why?

      Also hydrogen is a complete scam from a physics standpoint. Hydrogen has no place in the transportation sector. Diesel makes more sense than hydrogen imo.

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      Millions upon millions of cars mostly making short commuter trips results in cars with all that expensive technology sitting and not doing much most of the day anyway. 23 hours parked, and less than 1 hour driving in many cases.

      But they have a large battery that could have other uses. I am not sure what will happen, but it is part of the discussion as we decarbonize.

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        Originally posted by caseih View Post
        “Usual suspects” “flat earthers” “etc” right outta the manual
        It appears he should just stick with the flat Earth comments, it seems to be the only thing that he is good at, good thing he has the manual to back him up or he would probably even screw that up. Reality just earned another point, Chuck still zero.

        Edit. I was wrong, apparently he can screw that up too, even with the manual as evidence by the double posting above.
        Last edited by AlbertaFarmer5; Oct 19, 2021, 10:40.

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          Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
          Millions upon millions of cars mostly making short commuter trips results in cars with all that expensive technology sitting and not doing much most of the day anyway. 23 hours parked, and less than 1 hour driving in many cases.

          But they have a large battery that could have other uses. I am not sure what will happen, but it is part of the discussion as we decarbonize.
          True, but once the vehicle learns how to drive itself it can be used for many more hours per day.

          https://youtu.be/Ui9qjDgVXco

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            Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
            So now you have appointed yourself scorekeeper after your failed attempt at censorship and bullying. LOL
            Would you prefer if no one keeps score? If so I would understand completely, since real world physics just scored another one, and you are still stuck at zero.
            But how could I fail at something I have never attempted? I do not support censorship. I have publicly supported your right to come on here and embarrass yourself by spouting off about topics of which you don't have any clue about. Such as this one.

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              Originally posted by ALBERTAFARMER4 View Post
              V2G will never really be a thing and here's why. A car is engineered to travel down a highway a 60+mph and be safe in an accident. The thermal system is designed to deal with temps between -40 and +40 under varying loads. EV should be autonomous and delivering rides for more hours of the day. What I'm saying is that your EV would be better utilized as a taxi moving people around instead of sitting at home being used as a stationary battery. The whole point of a stationary battery is that it is always connected. Harvest energy during surplus and expel energy during high demand times. When the utility has a network of internet connected stationary batteries it will be able to reinforce the stability of the grid much better. Trying to manage the grid with cars in a million different places that may or may not be plugged in and at different states of charge seems like a logistical nightmare.
              You raise a very important point, if car’s batteries became an essential part of storing excess solar energy how could you assure enough were plugged into the grid to harvest the supposed excess energy? Also how would you reimburse consumers for shortening the effective life span of the battery in their vehicle? I agree that the stationary battery makes far more sense but again how do you reimburse consumers for taking care of the capital cost of energy storage? At present subsidies for solar installations only apply to grid tie installation and do not subsidize battery storage.

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                Originally posted by ALBERTAFARMER4 View Post
                True, but once the vehicle learns how to drive itself it can be used for many more hours per day.

                https://youtu.be/Ui9qjDgVXco
                First off I will thank AB4 for actually being willing to have an intelligent debate. Using a self driving car as a taxi while not in use is certainly an interesting idea. I am curious though how you feel this would affect the economy over all as this would certainly lower the number of cars needed to be purchased by consumers.

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                  yes his/her comments have really got me thinking
                  very intriguing , unlike chucky's constant name calling, greater than thou comments

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                    I am echoing many here saying what a breath of fresh air AB4 to have an intelligent and interesting conversation about ev’s and other such topics. This is how a conversation should take place. I honestly know nothing about this stuff and now know less the more I learn here. Something said about winning the hearts and minds than brow beating and being a dick.

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                      Originally posted by caseih View Post
                      yes his/her comments have really got me thinking
                      very intriguing , unlike chucky's constant name calling, greater than thou comments
                      So where exactly does such a sensitive person like yourself find "name" calling in this thread?

                      Its been an interesting discussion on EVs.

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