Ev vehicles sask

[samhill]

Be sure to put a lid on Mt St. Helens.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

So there are a few ways you could tackle this. You could sell all your day time production back to the grid (lets say 10cents/kWh for easy math). Sell 40kWh to the grid and you could charge 20kWh (generated kWh are paid @ market value, consumed kWh have transmission costs/admin fees/etc) at night for breakeven. Instead of investing in battery you just add more solar.

You could get 2 power walls so you can charge at night and sell the surplus to the grid.

So now we are back to where we started. You want to rely on the rest of the grid for cheap storage. Works fine when there are a handful of electric cars, and very few solar panels.

Now extrapolate that up to even 20% market penetration of EVs, and solar panels, and see how much solar power you can sell back to the grid, and what it costs to buy it back after the sun goes down. Let alone 100% as is being promoted.
Time of day metering along with excess solar will make solar power mostly a liability unless you have your own storage.

I can't blame you early adopters for enjoying the free ride being generously provided by The rest of us.

[fjlip]

Yes it's a FREE RIDE. How is the depreciation on EV's? about double ICE I am seeing. After X years a new battery will be needed, ridiculous $$ upgrade.

[shtferbrains]

So now we are back to where we started. You want to rely on the rest of the grid for cheap storage. Works fine when there are a handful of electric cars, and very few solar panels.

Now extrapolate that up to even 20% market penetration of EVs, and solar panels, and see how much solar power you can sell back to the grid, and what it costs to buy it back after the sun goes down. Let alone 100% as is being promoted.
Time of day metering along with excess solar will make solar power mostly a liability unless you have your own storage.

I can't blame you early adopters for enjoying the free ride being generously provided by The rest of us.

Surplus solar already happened in California and lots more to come because new start ups are easy to capitalize due to tax holidays and virtuous investors.
Doesn't have to make sense long term as promoters cash in on the share sales. Like penny stock mining scams.

[chuckChuck]

EV car manufacturers are already designing some EVs to provide backup power for homes in case of a power outage. So given enough EV batteries attached to the grid this could also provide some of the backup for intermittent generation sources. How this will all shakeout in the future is still unknown. The naysayers will always say it can't work for various reasons. But technological innovation and progress continues regardless. As fossil energy prices rise other options become more viable.

[A990]

EV car manufacturers are already designing some EVs to provide backup power for homes in case of a power outage. So given enough EV batteries attached to the grid this could also provide some of the backup for intermittent generation sources. How this will all shakeout in the future is still unknown. The naysayers will always say it can't work for various reasons. But technological innovation and progress continues regardless. As fossil energy prices rise other options become more viable.

honk! honk!

[sumdumguy]

Noticed in Maui, solar collectors on most of the houses. Sunshine all year👍

[shtferbrains]

Noticed in Maui, solar collectors on most of the houses. Sunshine all year👍

Not covered with snow that you have to climb up on the roof to clear?

[furrowtickler]

Tell me about the fuel and maintenance costs for running an ICE vehicle over 5 years @ 30,000km/year.

For reliable vehicles it is SFA
For some it’s maybe $2000 over 5 years
A few lemons out there no different than farm machinery
We have a 1993 Case 9270 tractor that has cost us near zero , most Toyota’s out there coast near zero over 5 years
Some cost a fortune, the same will be with EV’s .... so what’s your point ??
I guarantee there are many with Deere tractors , the odd Chev or Ford truck with the same near zero cost and some with endless costs .

Electrical output has never been free , and absolutely will never be again . Some will have a few cost offloads but as this ramps up the costs will resemble Denmark quickly

I could be wrong but time will tell

No doubt fuel is a big cost and getting higher but as will electricity, the free ride will be short lived

[ALBERTAFARMER4]

Well 3 pages later we got...

Child labour... how could you!
THE GRID CAN'T HANDLE IT!!!!!!!
Road tax cheat!
ICE is cheaper and has better resale!
Solar power doesn't work, it's too expensive, and the panels come from CHINA!
Batteries are toxic, require mined materials, and are going in landfills if they don't ELECTROCUTE you first!

Has anyone in this thread actually driven an electric vehicle?