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Originally posted by ALBERTAFARMER4 View PostTell me about the fuel and maintenance costs for running an ICE vehicle over 5 years @ 30,000km/year.
For some it’s maybe $2000 over 5 years
A few lemons out there no different than farm machinery
We have a 1993 Case 9270 tractor that has cost us near zero , most Toyota’s out there coast near zero over 5 years
Some cost a fortune, the same will be with EV’s .... so what’s your point ??
I guarantee there are many with Deere tractors , the odd Chev or Ford truck with the same near zero cost and some with endless costs .
Electrical output has never been free , and absolutely will never be again . Some will have a few cost offloads but as this ramps up the costs will resemble Denmark quickly
I could be wrong but time will tell
No doubt fuel is a big cost and getting higher but as will electricity, the free ride will be short livedLast edited by furrowtickler; Oct 18, 2021, 01:58.
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Well 3 pages later we got...
Child labour... how could you!
THE GRID CAN'T HANDLE IT!!!!!!!
Road tax cheat!
ICE is cheaper and has better resale!
Solar power doesn't work, it's too expensive, and the panels come from CHINA!
Batteries are toxic, require mined materials, and are going in landfills if they don't ELECTROCUTE you first!
Has anyone in this thread actually driven an electric vehicle?
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Originally posted by Robertbarlage View PostWho cares if you have driven one! Do you own one! Let's here the details
Last edited by ALBERTAFARMER4; Oct 18, 2021, 06:52.
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Originally posted by ALBERTAFARMER4 View PostWell it kind of matters because if your opinion is based on emotions/thoughts/feeling it is a lot different than an opinion based on first hand experience, right?
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are they available with all wheel drive?
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Originally posted by Robertbarlage View PostHow many km on one charge?
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I honestly would be very interested in the F150 electric truck . The others on the market are just too out there for me .
At the end of the day though can the grid as it stands now handle all electric vehicles by 2030 ? I just can’t see it , so there needs to be a massive upgrade in the entire system in a very short period of time and that’s not happening at all .
Home charge systems are far too expensive for 75% of the population and the grid would collapse in mid Sumer heat and month long cold spells as it sits right now .
Nice car AF4 👠, I have seen a few around . But I need something far more useful like a truck . Even an all wheel drive EV El Camino would be better for most of us .
Ideally I would like to have a solar set up with charging station at farm backed up by a small bio diesel gen set . But unfortunately after the past few years of hail / snow / drought , there is no extra cash for such thing , so it’s a pipe dream for a lot of us .
Still have to raise a family , get kids through years of university first . That and the insane input costs of farming going forward, I can’t see how any EV or charging system will be within reach for years
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Originally posted by ALBERTAFARMER4 View PostWell it kind of matters because if your opinion is based on emotions/thoughts/feeling it is a lot different than an opinion based on first hand experience, right?
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There is totally a case for EVs but thats not what the climate cult is pushing.
An EV can be a second car for some families or maybe something combined with a neighborhood ride sharing program or more work from home options etc. But 2 EVs in every garage charging every day and used every day is totally out of the question.
Hybrids are clearly a superior technology but all but forgotten now. Perhaps one car could be a hybrid and help charge the second car when not in use. Panels handle the majority of the house and grid is backup.
When the messaging on EVs and renewables gets practical and real options are presented you will have much greater adoption. But thats not what I hear being talking about at all.
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All of a sudden Poster's are so concerned about the effect the mines and open pits that will open or expand to get the elements to build batteries and other components to build EVs.
Yet not a word from any of them regarding the 100,000 orphaned wells in Alberta. Don't even know what the numbers are in Sask.
The big concern is EVs would be getting subsidized electricity, yet you didn't mind subsidizing Big Oil or the mess they left behind.
Then of COURSE there's those Posters on here still stating that coal mines and open pits should still continue as is.
AB4 comes on here with real life experiences and the debate goes on and on and on, from many of those who have never even driven an EV.
Sounds to me that you guys in SASK are dealing with major issues with the basic need of up grading you half century power line system. Hydro poles 65 years old. How long has Sask had electricity?
I personally feel the EV's are here to stay and will continue to grow now that the BIG THREE are going into full production. That being said oil, gas, diesel, and nuclear aren't going anywhere and the two will co-exist.
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