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    #91
    I looked into buying a used EV or plug in hybrid like a Prius. Just for running 10 mi into town.
    Trouble is I know we wouldn't use it enough to make it worth having around. Big Chevy 6.2 is just to nice to drive.
    Had a nice old 06 Ford 3/4 ton diesle that we used for towing trailers and field stuff but I'm mostly retired and the battery was always low it sat around so much.
    Have an older Rover we planed to use instead of putting klicks on the pickup but it just sits in the garage.
    I don't like doing R&M on stuff I don't realy need.

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      #92
      Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
      Based on your experience, and real world data on battery life, would you sign up for Chuck's program of using your Tesla battery for grid storage, and if so, what compensation would you need to cover the extra cycles on your batteries which have a finite number of cycles to begin with?
      In theory it seems like using your EV to power your home is a good idea but I would opt for a stationary home battery. If you have your car powering your home and your home drains it, then your car is useless. If there is a power outage you would have to pick between having power at your house and going somewhere. The extra cycles would accelerate the battery wear although the model 3/y battery has 2170 cells and seems to have more cycles than older 1865 cells. In an emergency situation I think it would be helpful but for day to day use I think EV as home battery is not useful.

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        #93
        Originally posted by ALBERTAFARMER4 View Post
        Well it kind of matters because if your opinion is based on emotions/thoughts/feeling it is a lot different than an opinion based on first hand experience, right?

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        Nice looking car. Thanks for sharing your experience with it.

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          #94
          Originally posted by jazz View Post
          There is totally a case for EVs but thats not what the climate cult is pushing.

          An EV can be a second car for some families or maybe something combined with a neighborhood ride sharing program or more work from home options etc. But 2 EVs in every garage charging every day and used every day is totally out of the question.

          Hybrids are clearly a superior technology but all but forgotten now. Perhaps one car could be a hybrid and help charge the second car when not in use. Panels handle the majority of the house and grid is backup.

          When the messaging on EVs and renewables gets practical and real options are presented you will have much greater adoption. But thats not what I hear being talking about at all.
          I also have a 2017 chevy volt (plug in hybrid w/ 13kWh battery) and when we do a road trip we take the Tesla. 500km highway driving means 12-15minutes of charging. This is a great time to grab a snack and use the washroom anyways so there is nearly no time penalty.

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            #95
            Originally posted by ALBERTAFARMER4 View Post
            I also have a 2017 chevy volt (plug in hybrid w/ 13kWh battery) and when we do a road trip we take the Tesla. 500km highway driving means 12-15minutes of charging. This is a great time to grab a snack and use the washroom anyways so there is nearly no time penalty.
            What’s the cost of a charge in that situation with current electrical rates ? $20, $50 , $100 ??

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              #96
              Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
              What’s the cost of a charge in that situation with current electrical rates ? $20, $50 , $100 ??
              Tesla superchargers are tiered and by the minute. Above 65KW is 40cents/minute and below 65 KW is 20cents/minute. This is my charge cost from Southern AB to St. Albert round trip...

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                #97
                nice !
                thanks, is it hard to find a plug in ?

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                  #98
                  Do you encounter any line ups (additional wait time) at these charging stations?

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by ALBERTAFARMER4 View Post
                    In theory it seems like using your EV to power your home is a good idea but I would opt for a stationary home battery. If you have your car powering your home and your home drains it, then your car is useless. If there is a power outage you would have to pick between having power at your house and going somewhere. The extra cycles would accelerate the battery wear although the model 3/y battery has 2170 cells and seems to have more cycles than older 1865 cells. In an emergency situation I think it would be helpful but for day to day use I think EV as home battery is not useful.
                    Thanks for the boots on the ground experience.
                    That looks like one more point for common sense reality, while Chuck's imaginary futuristic green utopia is still 0.
                    Last edited by AlbertaFarmer5; Oct 18, 2021, 16:25.

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                      Originally posted by caseih View Post
                      nice !
                      thanks, is it hard to find a plug in ?
                      Not really. You can slow charge from 120V @ 12amps (1kw) to 240v @ 48amps (11kw). The mobile charger you get has a removable plug that can be switched out to fit almost any plug you'd find. I mostly use 6-50 welder plug or a nema 14-50 (rv plug). On the road the fast charger network is really growing.


                      Originally posted by Taiga View Post
                      Do you encounter any line ups (additional wait time) at these charging stations?
                      I have not yet had to wait a single time in 3 years and 110,000km but I have had some close calls. Calgary one gets busy and Revelstoke can be a bottleneck with only 4 chargers.

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                        So on your example trip post your consuming about $2 an hour or do you have some at home at the start and the finish?

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                          This a great discussion with someone who is actually driving an ev. The diesel electric drive for tractors intrigues me the most.

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                            Originally posted by WiltonRanch View Post
                            This a great discussion with someone who is actually driving an ev. The diesel electric drive for tractors intrigues me the most.
                            And why not take that a step further, and put the electric motors on the wheels of the implements, and get rid of the over ballasted tractor in the front, dragging around a bunch of dead weight wheels, compacting every step of the way. Just move the power plant from implement to implement.

                            What we have now is akin to if we had kept the horse and buggy arrangement in modern automobiles, and the passengers still sat in a trailer behid the power unit.

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                              So like bringing a little honda 1500 Wat inverteewith ya how long would it take to charge with that just in case?

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                                thanks AF4
                                nice to have real life experience teachings instead of the pre packaged drivel we receive on here
                                thanks again
                                very interesting
                                Last edited by Guest; Oct 18, 2021, 18:54.

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