Dutch precision edge

[Guest]

Is that the regular side band, or the high rate side band you are talking?

just regular , one side only
these have been on since 07

[flea beetle]

just regular , one side only
these have been on since 07

That is pretty impressive to get 350 lbs safely with that opener!

[Guest]

atom jet has a policy where you can use them for a year
if you don't like them they take them back
i asked him if he had any discounted ones that were used a year but he said no one ever brings them back

[flea beetle]

atom jet has a policy where you can use them for a year
if you don't like them they take them back
i asked him if he had any discounted ones that were used a year but he said no one ever brings them back

Well that says something for sure. Do you guys think there is a difference in seed placement between atom jets side band openers and paired row? I assume side band would have less variance in depth seeding shallow like for canola?

[Guest]

That is pretty impressive to get 350 lbs safely with that opener!

we are normally wetter , was wondering this year being so dry , but no problems
dont do 350 a lot but 250-275 all the time
heres a barley blend , 90-35-15-0, 272 lbs product
i think we have gone to 50-35-0-20 with canola , maybe 225 lbs act
but for speed and easy we try to put 85 lbs juice in the fall, float 150 lbs fines in the fall and put 25-35-0-0 right beside seed with canola all the time

[Guest]

Well that says something for sure. Do you guys think there is a difference in seed placement between atom jets side band openers and paired row? I assume side band would have less variance in depth seeding shallow like for canola?

our morris tank you can do either by flipping a lever
centre through the point is way better for us with a pointed packer, and a tenth really wets bottom of run where seed is
flat packers might be different , friend has a flexi with paired row openers like us and rubber packers, he seeds paired all the time

[Guest]

many moons ago we used morris gumbo boots, with fert deeper , they sure ripped the shit outta the seed bed . something to be said for a narrow little trench on the same plane
it always grew but made you feel like jumping off a bridge when you were looking behind
these atom jets are really good for that too

[flea beetle]

our morris tank you can do either by flipping a lever
centre through the point is way better for us with a pointed packer, and a tenth really wets bottom of run where seed is
flat packers might be different , friend has a flexi with paired row openers like us and rubber packers, he seeds paired all the time

Have the 4” steel packers. Paired row probably better for those. Very center of trench gets packed pretty hard in the wrong conditions with the band in the very middle of the steel packer.

[Guest]

we usta seed out the side when we were mudding it in , but i don't think it helped
side of trench would be rock hard
and if no rain centre of trench would crack and let canola emerge
but... there sure is an advantage to paired row

[blackpowder]

So even though the AJ paired row looks very similar to dutch, they are considerably better on seed placement?

Does the 2060 follow the ground better than a 2050? Each section is independent of each other?

Soil flow different between low drafts and AJs. Also angle to ground. Of tip and body. To be fair, I never tried low draft open bottoms, but still have same beak and wing.
Sorry, never owned a 5000/2050.
Came from a 5710 BG. Should have bought this one the day before I bought that one.
Imagine a harrow. Each section attached to pull frame independently. Each section partial flex in middle.
Corners like a harrow not a cultivator.
Floats on soft ground like a harrows as well.
Operator ran end wheel up on road bank on a broke slough and most openers stayed in ground lol.
Poor mans precision. ?

[flea beetle]

we usta seed out the side when we were mudding it in , but i don't think it helped
side of trench would be rock hard
and if no rain centre of trench would crack and let canola emerge
but... there sure is an advantage to paired row

So what is the silver bullet? Or it is just pick your poison?

[flea beetle]

Soil flow different between low drafts and AJs. Also angle to ground. Of tip and body. To be fair, I never tried low draft open bottoms, but still have same beak and wing.
Sorry, never owned a 5000/2050.
Came from a 5710 BG. Should have bought this one the day before I bought that one.
Imagine a harrow. Each section attached to pull frame independently. Each section partial flex in middle.
Corners like a harrow not a cultivator.
Floats on soft ground like a harrows as well.
Operator ran end wheel up on road bank on a broke slough and most openers stayed in ground lol.
Poor mans precision. ?

Yeah that is interesting for sure. Kinda the best of both worlds. Wouldn't get the opener sinking in soft conditions like an independent, yet follows the ground better than a regular hoe drill.

Seems I had read about rock shafts bending on that model? Or is that just a case of guys putting them in places they shouldn't be? Have you had to deal with that?