Steel Buildings

[nop]

Did a 70x200 x20 Goodon in May, sliding doors on 1 end 33 ft opening, 45 foot bifold other end. 224k plus taxes.

Had a quote last November from Goodon for a 60x140x20 with 40 ft bi-fold door, build in June for 116k plus taxes

[Taiga]

Don’t forget to budget for earthworks/pad prep and gutters and eavestroughing.

[GDR]

Don’t forget to budget for earthworks/pad prep and gutters and eavestroughing.

Yep water management is important on a big roof. The next pole shed I build will have a 2ft overhang and pad built high enough to slope away good, no eavestroughs, they are just a pain with leaves and snow and ice. Overhang is surprisingly costly though.

[Guest]

We put 2’ of packing gravel under our shop
It’s perfect
And 6” Eavetroughs, very important!
Goodon built it for $68k in 2017 , just before those pricks put PST on them (48x60x18) insulated , finished inside with a walk in door, windows , 26’ bifold, and 16x16 ‘ overhead, remote openers,auto locking on bifold . Goodon was awesome
Cement, electrical and heating cost another $55
Really like it

[Guest]

Yep water management is important on a big roof. The next pole shed I build will have a 2ft overhang and pad built high enough to slope away good, no eavestroughs, they are just a pain with leaves and snow and ice. Overhang is surprisingly costly though.

These are from a fellow from red deer , follows Goodon
Built in snap in screen , 6” heavy duty
Guaranteed not to break from ice or plug
They work excellent

[Dirtfarmer1]

Forgot to mention i put 6 inch eavestrough on my building, was only around 7k, built my pad up with about 2 feet of clay. Put in 6 inches of gravel in building for a floor

[fjlip]

We put 2’ of packing gravel under our shop
It’s perfect
And Eavetroughs, very important!
Goodon built it for $68k in 2017 , just before those pricks put PST on them (48x60x18) insulated , finished inside with a walk in door, windows , 26’ bifold, and 16x16 ‘ overhead, remote openers,auto locking on bifold . Goodon was awesome
Cement, electrical and heating cost another $55
Really like it

Did you use poles or a Concrete slab?

We did ours 33 years ago, 40X64X16 on 8" concrete slab on poly, with 1/2" rebar on 12x12 grid on 12" of compacted gravel. Insulted outside of slab and 24" horizontal. Walls 2x6 plus 2x4 second inner wall, R 32. R50 ceiling with 24" OC rafters. 16x 14 R16 door. Costs about $400 to heat a year with a 1975 Olsen 60% furnace. Not one crack in slab so far. Heated even in first winter. 6" eavestroughs, 12" overhangs all around. 20x30 is a dedicated wood work room, keeps all sawdust there. Above 20x40 mezzanine for office and storage, and it's FULL. 33 winters of hobbies and repairs. Best investment of my career. My Advice is Build as soon as you can.

Poles are jacking out with frost in some sheds. Concrete has been a crap shoot too, crumbling under bins and sheds.

[fjlip]

Just saw this. Any sheds look like this?

https://www.thecombineforum.com/threads/pole-shed-issues.341547/

[TOM4CWB]

Just saw this. Any sheds look like this?

https://www.thecombineforum.com/thre...issues.341547/

Just a 10" concrete floor building foundation [proper sloped floors with gutter and sumps] [70'x100']with 8'x12" [8'centers standard] pilings and 3'x8" ponnywall above the pad...[16' wall giving 21' for 20' door/foundation insulated to regulation/spec to stop heat loss] just for the concrete work alone with 3' apron around the outside can cost well over 30-40$/sq ft.now Then the additional cost of the building to put on the top of this foundation. That is why the steel building folks do not want to quote buildings to farmers...[on top of the price of steel going up every day...]

But as usual... we get what we pay for. A shop with R-44 wall and r-55 roof with decent doors and windows [with a well built roof 50yr steel] will cost close to $100/sq ft. Bathrooms, electrical, lights, ventilation, air. parts room and offices don't come cheap... electrical can be $15/sqft alone... heat in floor another 10$/sq ft... plumbing/water and sewer $10/sq ft...$5 for engineering and permits...so that all adds up fast!!! If far away from a large centre... add $10/sq ft... Make sure to buy construction insurance... got ours up 3/4 of the way and a big wind flattened it [the building above the pony wall...and almost killed the workers inside securing it for the approaching storm. Hurricane clips on all rafters with cables crisscrossing inside the rafters.

Cheers

[tubs]

Built our shop in 2020 60 x 100 30ft overhead door and 16 foot 2 walk in door on heated slap with foundation 2x 8 walls and r60 in ceiling. was a shade over 300k. Should have built years ago.

[TOM4CWB]

Built our shop in 2020 60 x 100 30ft overhead door and 16 foot 2 walk in door on heated slap with foundation 2x 8 walls and r60 in ceiling. was a shade over 300k. Should have built years ago.

BTW;

We had a Steel Quonset that we finished for our farm shop and insulated in 2008.

It burnt in 2017... astonishingly... we had the proper fire suppressant spray on barrier over the spray on insulation... but it went crazy with aa small fire caused by a electric battery charger...

the heat from the fire on the end wall low down got under the fire protectant layer... and then spontaneous combustion took out the rest of the spray on insulation in the inside of the building...

in 15 minutes.... between 500-600 degrees F the spontaneous combustion.... without flames... destroyed and melted everything above 4' in the shop... the JD4wd was melted, my Pete truck... it was totally insane how horrible that spray in insulation is for taking out a building and melting everything with horrible smoke damage and enough heat to reck and warp any steel building.

I hate the inside insulation most steel buildings have mice get into that inside insulation and are near impossible to keep out permanently... a real downside to the steel building construction.

We lined the bottom 8' of our shop walls with 3/4" 45min fire resistant plywood and filled 2x8" walls with Rox r44 insulation blow in with barriers to stop settling....finished with good thick metal clad inside. Can screw anything we need into those walls anywhere. R55 with good metal clad on interior ceiling... the wood building we built is much more fire and rodent resistant than any steel building construction available.


No difference in fire insurance costs yearly between steel and wood... about the same cost if finished properly.

Concrete slab sandwich construction buildings are close to the same... no cheaper though to maintain [our exterior and interior covered in good quality gavalume which because of the zinc coating used should be good for 100yrs] or insure I am told.

Cheers

[TASFarms]

I know 2 different shops in kinderlsey that are metal with spray insulation. In both cases the guys couldn’t open the doors to get out once the fire started. Had to wait for the overhead door to blow out before they could get out. They couldn’t get the overhead door to move with 2 people pulling of the chain. Make sure your walk-in door opens out.

[sumdumguy]

Integrity was fast with quotes. 50x60 x 14 foot wall. 40 foot diamond power bifold door and 2 walki-in doors and a few windows. Cost $80,000.

[jazz]

These prices shock me a little. $100 a sq foot would be more than a typical farm house and more than my first house in Calgary. Unless people are living in their shops now.

In 2001 we put up a pretty modest 40x80x14 shop but because of being on gumbo it got a full grade beam on piles and then stick built on that. A 20x40 smallish pad in front to work on, no insulation. No eaves, one double slider door. That cost $30k back then. Probably be 3 times that now.

[LEP]

Integrity was fast with quotes. 50x60 x 14 foot wall. 40 foot diamond power bifold door and 2 walki-in doors and a few windows. Cost $80,000.

Integrity builds a nice building. But unless that is an airplane hangar, you are going to regret 14ft sidewall. High stack semi could be 13.5. I have 16 ft doors and have to fold the hopper on the combines. It is the shortest door I would consider.