Saskatchewan a nation within a nation? Hmm would that be a province?

[the big wheel]

Mr Moe telling the world sask will be a nation within a nation.
Is he surrendering to the kooks? Buffalo party or
What is there name now?

How about just manage what you need to manage
Doing a bunch of new definitions for us don’t
Mean shit if your not smart enough to make the
Right provincial deals for us.

[bucket]

Katie Simpson interviewed Moe yesterday. I am not a big fan of Katie but holy shit is Moe stupid.

[agstar77]

So is Canada a nation made up of nations. The whole thing is absurd. The Metis nation The Quebec nation etc. What happened to everyone being a citizen of one country?

[jazz]

What happened to everyone being a citizen of one country?

Trudeau and Quebec is what happened.

The EU functions just fine with autonomous member states. Thats a model Canada should aspire to.

Moe has the right idea but probably not the guy to pull it off especially if there isnt a committed leader in neighboring Alberta.

[wmoebis]

Here is a novel idea. What if we were all a province within a country. And try to work together as one. Like it was designed to be in the beginning.

[bucket]

The quickest solution is to starve Quebec of propane in the coming weeks and not give in until they say uncle.

[therealnorthernf]

So is Canada a nation made up of nations. The whole thing is absurd. The Metis nation The Quebec nation etc. What happened to everyone being a citizen of one country?

Quebec being able to get everything they want from the Feds and not even signing on to the Canadian constitution..

what is good for one should be good for the rest.. Bring it on Moe and Kenny(if u have the balls)

[chuckChuck]

Moe is copying Kenney. It's painfull to watch. Kenney is about to get his ass kicked out. Maybe Moe wants to follow? LOL

Moe has control over provincial taxation, resources, education, healthcare etc etc. He could have even had his own carbon tax and rebated it all back to consumers or paid off his oil friend buddies. But he chose to fight with the Feds.

But rather than take responsibility for his own dismal record on many issues including agriculture he would rather raise a red herring idea that will go no where.

[foragefarmer]

Mr Moe telling the world sask will be a nation within a nation.
Is he surrendering to the kooks? Buffalo party or
What is there name now?

How about just manage what you need to manage
Doing a bunch of new definitions for us don’t
Mean shit if your not smart enough to make the
Right provincial deals for us.

Coming from an idiot who has had two impaired charges along with leaving the scene of an accident.

Surprising if Moe can wipe his ass and chew gum at the same time.

Not to mention tomorrow is Remembrance Day!

Oh well I guess Moe can be lump in with Kenney, same I.Q's

[Hamloc]

Coming from an idiot who has had two impaired charges along with leaving the scene of an accident.

Surprising if Moe can wipe his ass and chew gum at the same time.

Not to mention tomorrow is Remembrance Day!

Oh well I guess Moe can be lump in with Kenney, same I.Q's

So it is ok in your opinion that Quebec considers itself a nation within Canada? That all the various Indigenous peoples would like to be individual nations and deal with our federal government on a nation to nation basis? And you could do better than Moe or Kenney?

[agstar77]

Its is all about power
Nation talk is just that. Just trying to get leverage.

[furrowtickler]

Coming from an idiot who has had two impaired charges along with leaving the scene of an accident.

Surprising if Moe can wipe his ass and chew gum at the same time.

Not to mention tomorrow is Remembrance Day!

Oh well I guess Moe can be lump in with Kenney, same I.Q's

Sad as it is , still way better than blackface JT ..
Says not much about most political leaders today

[furrowtickler]

[chuckChuck]

So it is ok in your opinion that Quebec considers itself a nation within Canada? That all the various Indigenous peoples would like to be individual nations and deal with our federal government on a nation to nation basis? And you could do better than Moe or Kenney?

There were 2 very distinct founding european nations in Canada along with all the other first nations. How different is the history of Saskatchewan in comparison? It only became a province in 1905.

If you look at Canada's history you will soon realize that New France was established well before the rest of Canada.

From Wikipedia:
On June 24, 1534, French explorer Jacques Cartier planted a cross on the Gaspé Peninsula and took possession of the territory in the name of King François I of France.

From 1534 and 1763 the French colony was called Canada.

"Following the Seven Years' War, Quebec became a British colony in the British Empire. It was first known as the Province of Quebec (1763–1791), then as Lower Canada (1791–1841), and then as Canada East (1841–1867) as a result of the Lower Canada Rebellion.

During this period, the inferior socio-economic status of francophones (because anglophones dominated the natural resources and industries of Quebec), the catholic church, resistance against cultural assimilation, and isolation from non English-speaking populations were important themes."

[chuckChuck]

Opinion
Premier Scott Moe wants Saskatchewan to have nationhood status. Yes, it’s as bizarre as it sounds
Gary Mason

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-premier-scott-moe-wants-saskatchewan-to-have-nationhood-status-yes-its/

National affairs columnist

That rumbling sound you heard this week was the very foundation of the country being shaken by calls from Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe for nationhood status within Confederation.

And the populace responded with a collective: say what?

Well, slough off this threat at your peril my friends. Saskatchewan may not have been one of the three founding nations of Canada. And it doesn’t have a language separate from the rest of the country. But people were surely curling there long before it became fashionable in the rest of the country.

And if being a fan of the Saskatchewan Roughriders doesn’t make you unique, what does? And then there’s bunny hugs. If you have to ask then clearly you haven’t been to the province. I could go on. Well, actually I couldn’t. But surely there’s enough there to make the case that Saskatchewan is as culturally distinct as one of its delicious berry pies.

This week on the Roy Green radio show, Mr. Moe made this very case, suggesting his province deserved to have special status within Confederation because, well, it deserved it. Now one could take this statement seriously or recognize it for what it is: preposterous pandering to a party base that hasn’t exactly been thrilled with the Premier’s performance of late.

It’s Mr. Moe creating yet another distraction from his government’s gross mishandling of the fourth wave of the pandemic. And the way you deal with that is you talk about “independence” instead.

“We’re going to flex our autonomy,” Mr. Moe told Mr. Green’s radio audience. “Flex our provincial muscle, if you will, within the nation of Canada.”

Go ahead and flex, Mr. Premier.

Mr. Moe said he wasn’t proposing separation (phew!), but rather greater autonomy from a federal government that is working “against the best interests of the country.”

If the Premier honestly believes his province will be further ahead with its own police force, taxation regime, immigration program, then start the talks. If being more like Quebec is what Saskatchewan – with 3 per cent of the country’s population – wants, then let the negotiations begin.

My strong suspicion is this is not a priority for most of the good folks who live there. Rather, it’s a means for Mr. Moe to take a few cheap whacks at Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, which is always good politics in a part of the Prairies where that last name can still incite red faces and strong language.

Mr. Moe said he is upset with the federal government’s plan to cap oil and gas emissions as part of its commitment to reducing the country’s CO2 output by 40 per cent by 2030. Although, he admitted to a recent party convention, he wasn’t sure what impact, if any, this policy would have on the province.

The Premier lamented the fact that Mr. Trudeau didn’t go to the COP26 conference in Glasgow and tout the benefits of Saskatchewan energy, which he said was the most sustainable anywhere on the planet. This would be news to environmentalists who have long lamented the province’s environmental record.

Methane leakage from gas wells in Saskatchewan has been a huge problem for ages, yet the gas helps generate more than 40 per cent of the province’s electricity. Another 40 per cent is produced using coal. I’m not sure Mr. Moe wants anyone going to international conferences singing the praises of Saskatchewan’s environmental record because this fantasy would be exposed in a hurry.

The fact is, what Mr. Moe, and his BFF next door, Alberta Premier Jason Kenney, specialize in these days is corrosive and divisive grievance politics. Everything is the fault of the big, bad Liberal government in Ottawa that is allegedly singling out the two provinces through its energy plan and other policies.

Mr. Trudeau would never implement something like a cap on oil and gas emissions against Ontario’s car manufacturing sector, they complain. No, the Liberals would just impose a carbon tax that will soar to $170 a tonne by the end of the decade instead – a levy that is partially designed to get people out of their cars. The same Liberals that also plan to bring in a zero-emission mandate for new vehicles.

Mr. Moe’s “nation within a nation” gambit this week is embarrassing. As I say, it’s a nonsensical ploy to get people to look somewhere other than at his government’s dismal handling of the pandemic.

The Premier’s complaint of regional bias against Saskatchewan and the West by the federal government became boring a long time ago. If he thinks wanting to be like Quebec is the answer to all that ails his province, he’s sadly mistaken.