The latest threat to phosphate supplies is electric vehicles

[AlbertaFarmer5]

https://www.producer.com/news/china-cuts-phosphate-exports-to-build-batteries/

I don't expect farmers will be able to outbid EV battery manufacturers for a dwindling supply of phosphate.

[Guest]

I was really bored today and read that socialist rag for a bit too
Funny they printed that tale

[AlbertaFarmer5]

When the radical greens reignite the food versus fuel debate about using fertilizer to make car batteries, I'm sure Chuck will be leading the charge. Looking out for Farmers.

[BreadWinner]

Im sure its in the Lefty Green handbook that fertilizer to make batteries is totally fine. Lol

[furrowtickler]

Im sure its in the Lefty Green handbook that fertilizer to make batteries is totally fine. Lol

Much like huge open pit mines developed and worked with huge fuel burning equipment, it’s all good
But to produce food , well that’s no good

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Much like huge open pit mines developed and worked with huge fuel burning equipment, it’s all good
But to produce food , well that’s no good

I get a kick out of the picture accompanying the article. Of a fossil fuel powered truck hauling electric cars.

[biglentil]

The globalists know switching over the ice vehicles is a pipe dream. Mark Carney stated that in the not so distant future only the ultra rich will have cars. So much so that a child will call out to his mother in awe, "hey look Mom a car!"

The war on fossil fuels is a war on us.

[macdon02]

https://www.producer.com/news/china-...ild-batteries/
I don't expect farmers will be able to outbid EV battery manufacturers for a dwindling supply of phosphate.

Yeah we can

[macdon02]

Yeah we can

The subsidies are lopsided to big oil refining veg oil. EV's are not getting the same nod. In the end, it's same old same old, plus the infrastructure isn't in place for EV, roll coal boys, diesel is going nowhere but up. Higher canola and soy prices due to mandates on renewable diesel. It sounds pretty, but at the end of the day, govt is not going to bite the hand that feeds them.

[shtferbrains]

Yeah we can

There is no way China can't produce enough phosphate to export product. They produce 5x the US production.

US production is falling not because of reduced reserves but because of consolidated ownership in the hands of the usual suspects.

There are many smaller more expensive to mine phosphate deposits that might get mined as prices make it pheasable.

Appears to me that China is no longer trying to lowball the whole world on a large number of products. They have dominated production on many products after destroying manufacturing segments in most original G7 countries and are set up to take some windfall profits.

My humble opinion.
DYOD

[furrowtickler]

There is no way China can't produce enough phosphate to export product. They produce 5x the US production.

US production is falling not because of reduced reserves but because of consolidated ownership in the hands of the usual suspects.

There are many smaller more expensive to mine phosphate deposits that might get mined as prices make it pheasable.

Appears to me that China is no longer trying to lowball the whole world on a large number of products. They have dominated production on many products after destroying manufacturing segments in most original G7 countries and are set up to take some windfall profits.

My humble opinion.
DYOD

I think that exactly what’s going on

[TASFarms]

Arianne phosphate mine that’s purposed in Quebec is focused on batteries

[Guest]

I can see gly going to $20/ltr

[TOM4CWB]

I think that exactly what’s going on

China is declaring 'economic terrorist warfare' on Western Civilization.

When the Chinese 'Nation State' controls vast market share, then Blackmails market economies with withdrawal of critical input supplies necessary for food production... this threat is then no less than:
economic terrorist warfare'.

The threat of disruption to commodity markets [by China and Russia] globally cannot be underestimated.

China and Russia can easily break Western Civilization, BECAUSE OF CLIMATE CHANGE 'GREEN REVOLUTION'... we have put our western economies in peril of catastrophic shortages of energy and food security needs.

This is unprecedented in history, a threat to us as farmers and humanity in general.

Cheers

[Guest]

China is declaring 'economic terrorist warfare' on Western Civilization.

When the Chinese 'Nation State' controls vast market share, then Blackmails market economies with withdrawal of critical input supplies necessary for food production... this threat is then no less than:
economic terrorist warfare'.

The threat of disruption to commodity markets [by China and Russia] globally cannot be underestimated.

China and Russia can easily break Western Civilization, BECAUSE OF CLIMATE CHANGE 'GREEN REVOLUTION'... we have put our western economies in peril of catastrophic shortages of energy and food security needs.

This is unprecedented in history, a threat to us as farmers and humanity in general.

Cheers

You're so negative. I think they're just playing the same game as everybody else and winning.