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    #31
    Ya, custom not an option here.
    Currently taking from ~200+ to less than 1000. Last flip cost $189/ hr.
    If same value, I'd rather make payments than repairs and have downtime risk.
    Down side, I'll never "own" one again.
    Or be phoning 2 provinces for parts and paying $200/hr service trucks.
    No right answer just trying to compare.

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      #32
      Well if you take this Massey for instance, if I were to buy it and run it to 2500 hours, and got $50,000 for it once I was done with it, it would cost me $71.50/separator hour. Plus whatever repairs I would have to put into it.

      If I had to put $40,000 into it over that time, it would cost me $100/hour.
      Last edited by flea beetle; Nov 20, 2021, 11:23.

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        #33
        Originally posted by flea beetle View Post
        What about longevity on the masseys? No worries going to 2500-3000 threshing hours? This machine seems to be a smoking deal at $150,000 for a machine with 1000ish threshing hours and the guts almost completely replaced.

        How would it compare to the 9240 furrow as far as capacity, throwing, and the sample it can attain?
        I would think very comparable in many aspects , fuel use would be less on the Massey .
        I would think if you have decent dealer for parts access that you will really like the Massey overall .

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          #34
          Originally posted by flea beetle View Post
          Well if you take this Massey for instance, if I were to buy it and run it to 2500 hours, and got $50,000 for it once I was done with it, it would cost me $71.50/separator hour. Plus whatever repairs I would have to put into it.

          If I had to put $40,000 into it over that time, it would cost me $100/hour.
          Thank you.
          This site still has value.
          Here, taking it to dealer, I feel I would easily spend double that or more getting a Case to 2500hrs. And that would just be off season rebuilds not in season fixes. DEF deleted after warranty off of course.
          If good dealer support, likely good value in used Masseys' until low hour ones gone. I heard they're done?

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            #35
            Originally posted by flea beetle View Post
            What about longevity on the masseys? No worries going to 2500-3000 threshing hours? This machine seems to be a smoking deal at $150,000 for a machine with 1000ish threshing hours and the guts almost completely replaced.
            My usual response to that question is: If it is made by man it will fail..

            But today I had been talking to a neighbour who runs nothing but green paint and I'm sure gets all of his information from "The Furrow" and his Deere salesman. He had been my farm yard and noticed the shop doors were open and the combine was in there with some shields up.. His comment pissed me right off especially sense I know his machines are sitting at the local dealership waiting for their annual green light.

            Sooooooo here goes.
            seems that everyone that doesn't run Masseys worries about breakdowns.. I'm not sure where this comes from. We haven't had issues with dependability
            I can tell u our farm has run Massey combines on it from the #27 - 9560. And I can also tell u we haven't had a local Massey dealer for the last 59 years, closest is an hour away(the rest of our equipment is a rainbow of colours).. I do think we take good care of all our machinery and try to send it to the field in the best possible condition. So we may spend a little extra time and money especially when it comes to replacing bearings and not waiting until they become molten steel.

            I always look at purchasing other makes(mostly Deere with combines), example: when I traded for the 9895.. I have a friend who is a service Manager at a Deere store so when it came time to pull the trigger on either a Deere 9870 or the Massey 9895, I took his numbers on the average annual Green light cost for a 9870.. And took my chance on the Massey. Don't know what that 9870 would have cost me in repairs. But I do know the 9895 was a cheap machine to own compared to the numbers I was told it would cost me to run a Deere. The 9895 never went to the dealer for repairs everything it needed we did over it's 6 years on our farm.
            Why I mostly look at Deere combines.. Local dealer,
            I haven't been a fan of the Case machines, my brother inlaw ran them and we combined with him lots. simply put.. capacity wasn't great and for machines that were never more then 2 years old before he sent them down the road.. Down time seemed an issue. hated helping change that rotor belt.

            New Hollands have always intrigued me and there have been a few in our area.. But again the closest dealership is an hr away and I am a little hesitant as the neighbours who have had the New Hollands never replace it with a second one. I guess I should ask them the what and why.

            The 9560 has started to get the bearings replaced with good quality(cheaper than OME) non Massey ones. Last winter the bearings from the front beater through the cleaning system were replaced. This winter the feeder house, cross augers, elevator chains and cleaning fan bearings will be replaced... The original feeder chain will be replaced with a Harvest plastic one.

            A side note: Had the feeder chain ordered and was quoted a price(WOW not bad at all) pickup the chain from the dealer.. Crap are they ever gouging me.. well they show me the billing from Harvest.. a 25% metal surcharge on the cost of the chain.. Why can't they be up front with the price??? I would have still bought it as I think their plastic chains are better(cheaper too) than OEM ones.

            Good luck with what ever u decide
            Last edited by therealnorthernf; Nov 20, 2021, 11:55.

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              #36
              Like agco as a whole are done? Or they are favouring fendt and dropping the Massey name?

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                #37
                Originally posted by therealnorthernf View Post
                My usual response to that question is: If it is made by man it will fail..

                But today I had been talking to a neighbour who runs nothing but green paint and I'm sure gets all of his information from "The Furrow" and his Deere salesman. He had been my farm yard and noticed the shop doors were open and the combine was in there with some shields up.. His comment pissed me right off especially sense I know his machines are sitting at the local dealership waiting for their annual green light.

                Sooooooo here goes.
                seems that everyone that doesn't run Masseys worries about breakdowns.. I'm not sure where this comes from. We haven't had issues with dependability
                I can tell u our farm has run Massey combines on it from the #27 - 9560. And I can also tell u we haven't had a local Massey dealer for the last 59 years, closest is an hour away(the rest of our equipment is a rainbow of colours).. I do think we take good care of all our machinery and try to send it to the field in the best possible condition. So we may spend a little extra time and money especially when it comes to replacing bearings and not waiting until they become molten steel.

                I always look at purchasing other makes(mostly Deere with combines), example: when I traded for the 9895.. I have a friend who is a service Manager at a Deere store so when it came time to pull the trigger on either a Deere 9870 or the Massey 9895, I took his numbers on the average annual Green light cost for a 9870.. And took my chance on the Massey. Don't know what that 9870 would have cost me in repairs. But I do know the 9895 was a cheap machine to own compared to the numbers I was told it would cost me to run a Deere. The 9895 never went to the dealer for repairs everything it needed we did over it's 6 years on our farm.
                Why I mostly look at Deere combines.. Local dealer,
                I haven't been a fan of the Case machines, my brother inlaw ran them and we combined with him lots. simply put.. capacity wasn't great and for machines that were never more then 2 years old before he sent them down the road.. Down time seemed an issue. hated helping change that rotor belt.

                New Hollands have always intrigued me and there have been a few in our area.. But again the closest dealership is an hr away and I am a little hesitant as the neighbours who have had the New Hollands never replace it with a second one. I guess I should ask them the what and why.

                The 9560 has started to get the bearings replaced with good quality(cheaper than OME) non Massey ones. Last winter the bearings from the front beater through the cleaning system were replaced. This winter the feeder house, cross augers, elevator chains and cleaning fan bearings will be replaced... The original feeder chain will be replaced with a Harvest plastic one.

                A side note: Had the feeder chain ordered and was quoted a price(WOW not bad at all) pickup the chain from the dealer.. Crap are they ever gouging me.. well they show me the billing from Harvest.. a 25% metal surcharge on the cost of the chain.. Why can't they be up front with the price??? I would have still bought it as I think their plastic chains are better(cheaper too) than OEM ones.

                Good luck with what ever u decide
                I will likely pull the trigger on this one. I feel it is too good to pass up.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by flea beetle View Post
                  Like agco as a whole are done? Or they are favouring fendt and dropping the Massey name?
                  Thought I heard Agco dropping Massey.
                  Anyone in the know care to comment?

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                    #39
                    There are no more Massey combines. Last Dec/Jan was the end of them.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Misterjade9 View Post
                      There are no more Massey combines. Last Dec/Jan was the end of them.
                      So just challenger and fendt?

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by flea beetle View Post
                        So just challenger and fendt?
                        No, just Fendt.

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                          #42
                          Well way to go guys! Now I’m worried about parts availability down the road.🤦

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                            #43
                            Realnorthernf interesting that you bring up replacing the feeder chain. I remember a couple of years ago being at my local Agro dealer in Trochu, was interested in looking at a Massey combine. Out of interest I asked what a new feeder chain was worth, they said $3800. I had just priced one for my 9070 and it was around $2200 if I remember correctly. Have to admit I never looked at a Massey again. Incidentally put a new feeder chain on my Case this fall and it was $2700 all in. As for Harvest chains, interesting that you like them. I tried one in my Tr 96 many years ago and had problems with bent and broken slats. Never bought one again, always use Oem. Certainly fortunate that we all like different brands or there would be no competition.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by flea beetle View Post
                              I will likely pull the trigger on this one. I feel it is too good to pass up.
                              Just an FYI Rocky Mountain Equipment has a Case combine sale on right now, up to 20% off until Dec. 31. Also as part of the deal no interest, no payments until 2024. As well I believe free inspection after next years harvest and a $2500 parts credit. No I am not a RME salesman lol.

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by flea beetle View Post
                                Well way to go guys! Now I’m worried about parts availability down the road.🤦
                                Lol.
                                Ive been in your shoes with the heritage masseys, although electronics are a factor today.
                                Also, I'm finding parts obsolescence after 15 years an issue on so many things. Companies do not want to own inventory at all since 08. Big changes since those days. I have several examples on equipment, trucks, and engines.
                                Having said all that, if the price is right, treat it like a rented mule. Just don't factor a big resale. Good luck.

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