BC floods.

[Rareearth]

Fyi, i live in a area where ancient glaciers sc****d the land relatively level, and deposited more rocks than i care for, so what, adjust, adapt or get out.

Any way I've observed those in Manitoba who do adjust, adapt and manage risk. They build on raised or elevated yard sites as well as build large earth dams/dykes to keep water during flooding out the homes and barns, they have back up generators for back up power (barns, homes etc), for extreme weather situations. There is a saying “ never say woe in a mud hole”.

[sumdumguy]

Seems like you may flood if you build in a lake, just sayin. Why should taxpayer be on the hook with the inevitable happens?

[shtferbrains]

Frasier Valley out of gas.
30 ltr gas ration but only as supplies allow.
Have patience with the supplier.
Someting about service station making thier supplies last till Dec 1

Trans mountain down for week.

[burnt]

Frasier Valley out of gas.
30 ltr gas ration but only as supplies allow.
Have patience with the supplier.
Someting about service station making thier supplies last till Dec 1

Trans mountain down for week.

Well, there you go - how often does an instant solution pop out out of a problem it supposedly caused?

[jazz]

Hell we wouldnt want to build any pipelines now would we?

[TOM4CWB]

https://ca.yahoo.com/finance/news/1-good-news-last-flood-225235928.html
"Reuters: UPDATE 2-Flood-hit Canadian province limits fuel, non-essential travel
Jesse Winter
Fri, November 19, 2021, 2:52 PM
By Jesse Winter

HOPE, British Columbia, Nov 19 (Reuters) - British Columbia imposed temporary restrictions on fuel and non-essential travel on Friday to ease supply chain disruptions and support recovery work after floods and mudslides destroyed roads, houses and left thousands stranded in the western Canadian province."

"... good news when CP said work to repair damaged infrastructure would continue non-stop and service should be restored in the middle of next week.

"Barring any unforeseen issues, we currently estimate service will be restored mid-week," spokesperson Salem Woodrow said in an email.

The Trans Mountain pipeline, which carries up to 300,000 barrels per day of crude oil from Alberta province to the Pacific coast, also said it was "optimistic" that it can restart the pipeline in some capacity by the end of next week.

CN said it was making progress in repairing its impacted rail network in British Columbia, but it expects the repair work to continue at least into next week.

The disaster looks set to be the costliest natural disaster https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/canadas-10-costliest-natural-disasters-by-insurance-claims-2021-11-17 to ever hit Canada.

The railway shutdowns have left exporters of commodities scrambling to divert shipments away from Vancouver and underscored the vulnerability of Canada's supply chains to climate change.

Water pumps are still working flat out in the city of Abbotsford to the east of Vancouver. If they fail, officials said all 160,000 residents may have to leave.

Bruce Banman, a provincial lawmaker who represents the area, surveyed the damage from a helicopter on Friday and said about 50% of agriculture-rich Sumas prairie remains underwater.

"The damage is significant, it's catastrophic," he said. "It's heartbreaking to see. There are farmers still trying to save livestock."

He said infrastructure repairs alone would cost more than C$1 billion ($790 million) and that did not cover the loss of crops."

[chuckChuck]

Should part of that plan include easier access to O&G without increased money pressure so that we can afford to heat our homes in more extreme winter events?

I don’t feel that we need to “move forward”. Technologies evolve as required based on testing and implementation. The idea of picking an idea out of the air thinking it will work sounds like a make work project. Especially if one of those ideas is to move entire metropolitan areas somewhere else. Or maybe just jack up the skysc****rs onto stilts?

People will move when they absolutely have to move. No sooner than that.

What does affordable access to fossil energy sources for heating have to do with building better infrastructure to withstand flooding? Most of the recent increase increase in energy prices have come from supply and demand increases in market prices.

We already have net zero housing technology. Super insulated and efficient housing that requires much less energy to heat a house. Our building codes for energy efficiency are weak.

Who is suggesting moving an entire metropolitan area?

So again, are you suggesting we shouldn't replace our aging and inadequate infrastructure and design the new infrastructure in a way that will with stand the increased frequency and intensity of severe weather events?

Don't you think the residents and farms of the former Sumas lake will need stronger and higher dikes and pumping systems? Or do you think they should do nothing?

Why are you suggesting we don't need to move forward and prepare for the future of growing cities and increasing pressures on our infrastructure?

Who is picking an idea out of the air and implementing it?

Municipalities across Canada are planning for climate change and also emergencies like flooding. They are planning and designing more for extreme events. Its a long and expensive process.

[Robertbarlage]

https://www.flickr.com/photos/tranbc/albums/72157720143417483

[jazz]

Name another country in the world that knocks its head against a major mountain range trying to move hundreds of billions in imports and exports? I will wait.

[shtferbrains]

https://www.flickr.com/photos/tranbc/albums/72157720143417483

That is the best group of pic I have seen that shows them at work and not just big sheets of water.

Just click on the Dept of hyway header to see them all.

[Blaithin]

What does affordable access to fossil energy sources for heating have to do with building better infrastructure to withstand flooding? Most of the recent increase increase in energy prices have come from supply and demand increases in market prices.

We already have net zero housing technology. Super insulated and efficient housing that requires much less energy to heat a house. Our building codes for energy efficiency are weak.

Who is suggesting moving an entire metropolitan area?

So again, are you suggesting we shouldn't replace our aging and inadequate infrastructure and design the new infrastructure in a way that will with stand the increased frequency and intensity of severe weather events?

Don't you think the residents and farms of the former Sumas lake will need stronger and higher dikes and pumping systems? Or do you think they should do nothing?

Why are you suggesting we don't need to move forward and prepare for the future of growing cities and increasing pressures on our infrastructure?

Who is picking an idea out of the air and implementing it?

Municipalities across Canada are planning for climate change and also emergencies like flooding. They are planning and designing more for extreme events. Its a long and expensive process.

New buildings are always updated. What’s being built now is not the same as what was built 50 years ago. As required the buildings are built for different issues. Like buildings that can withstand earthquakes and hurricanes. I don’t live in those risk zones, or flooding, or even fire, should I have to change my buildings?

I do live in an older home. It’s not that it isnt energy efficient, but it’s definitely only set up for O&G heating. So I am vulnerable to all taxes the government feels are helpful to the situation. I have to pay or I freeze. In a climates change scenario of increased extremes, increased cold is also in there. Why should it be ok to for you to yodel about changing building standards in case of natural disasters that *might* but we can’t say taxing for heating for something that absolutely is happening is silly.

How can one fix a metropolitan area in a delta or a low lying water course? Knock all the buildings down and rebuild from scratch? Cheap option. Implement dikes and pumps? Those are common but they do fail every now and then.

How do you see the world becoming more risk free?

Keep in mind most of the issue here isn’t so much the increased risk, it’s the increased population.

Why are natural disasters so costly? Because every now and then they hit populated areas and critical infrastructure. If this event had gone slightly North and fringed the North of the Cariboo and maybe did some damage to the PR line and Highway 16 but had a much smaller population to impact and less infrastructure, would you be shouting climate change so much? Would it even be in the news like it is?

Location is everything. A grassfire can take out a township and you will barely hear about it. A grassfire takes out a town, you hear about it.

[chuckChuck]

"Keep in mind most of the issue here isn’t so much the increased risk, it’s the increased population." Huh?

Blaithin, it's both increased risk and population increases.

There is lots of evidence that we are at increased risk from extreme weather events and its going to get worse.

2021 is a hell of year to tell BC there is nothing to worry about. Over 500 dead in the heat dome? Massive fires. Massive floods? What more evidence do you need?

Governments at all levels are making plans for adaptation and looking at key infrastructure improvements to deal with climate change.

You give the impression that we don't need to do anything. That it is all normal. Well other than on Agriville hardly anybody would agree with you.

[Blaithin]

"Keep in mind most of the issue here isn’t so much the increased risk, it’s the increased population." Huh?

Blaithin, it's both increased risk and population increases.

There is lots of evidence that we are at increased risk from extreme weather events and its going to get worse.

2021 is a hell of year to tell BC there is nothing to worry about. Over 500 dead in the heat dome? Massive fires. Massive floods? What more evidence do you need?

Governments at all levels are making plans for adaptation and looking at key infrastructure improvements to deal with climate change.

You give the impression that we don't need to do anything. That it is all normal. Well other than on Agriville hardly anybody would agree with you.

What. Are. We. Going. To. Do?

What is in our power.

Move cities.
Tax carbon.
Postulate as a politician.

You’re very idealistic if you thinking preaching politicians are the answer. Go out and do something yourself.

I have other shit to worry about in life than how I can help BC. I have friends in BC, there are a handful of people I can help and support. But an online forum shrieking “Climate Change OMG we need to do something!!” with no actual ideas of what to do. Don’t try and make us on here feel guilty because we aren’t panic posting.

[shtferbrains]

Governments at all levels are making plans for adaptation and looking at key infrastructure improvements to deal with climate change.

You give the impression that we don't need to do anything. That it is all normal. Well other than on Agriville hardly anybody would agree with you.

Chuck IMHO your green reset is dead. It's a zombie you are looking at. It is dead but being carried by the herd. It has been dead since China, Putin, and most of the world made it obvious they have not been participating.
Errol has been predicting a meltdown starting with the markets but what killed it is the money printing presses. Inflation is out of control and getting much worse every day. Even MSM sees that now.
When Treadau says we've got your back he doesn't have any money. He spent it long ago but will print more causing more inflation meaning YOU have less assets.
Most of the cause of inflation is due to sacrificing money to the green gods and paying larger segments of society to sit at home.
You are looking in the rear view mirror if you think government printing presses can continue to support this zombie a large part of the world economy we compete with is not participating.
Look out the windshield to see what is coming like Blathin.

[jazz]

Do people really think this is the first disaster our species has witnessed? We have seen thousands of them, up close and with devastating results, yet people still insist on living on flood plains or coastlines or near volcanoes. Thats not going to change no matter how much climate hysteria you want to inject.

Pick a city to start moving or rebuilding. Then tell me how you will pay for it.

Since the Bay Area and Los Angeles earthquakes 25-30ys ago, 10M more people have moved into those areas.