Hunters...JFC

[bucket]

Why is it so phucking hard to ask for permission to hunt or drive across land ,,,,just as a courtesy.

It isn't farmers that force the new laws, its the inconsiderate phuckers that think its their land.

One guy says the law isn't in place yet. But had he read most of the background, he would know that it is a courteous thing to do.

I ask for their address so I can drive on their front lawn.

They drive 2 phucking hours and can't figure out where it is safe to hunt.

My question to one today , ..."'" What happens if the guy that asked permission comes over hill and shoots at you" Are you OK being shot at? I doubt he is ...

Just phucking ignorant.

One guy was in our east pasture and my son said he should ask permission . My son gave the number of his grandma that owns it, as my son always asks. Two Hours later , same guy is in our west pasture, he says the gate was open,,,I said " well , an open gate is not an invitation to go in""" And he still hadn't called to hunt.


This is why we need newer laws.

[the big wheel]

And the beer cans and garbage left behind
Ya like I m really comfortable someone that ignorant
Is also pissed up holding a rifle.

[bucket]

It is obvious they are not teaching their kids anything.

If I drove on someone's front lawn in the city, I am pretty sure there would be a fine of some sort.

These guys just say its not hurting anything.

[jazz]

Use the new tresspass laws and extract some coin from these retards. Those laws have some real teeth now thanks to Moe.

[Taiga]

Saskatchewan’s hunting/trespass rules are so foreign to the rest of us that don’t reside there. In AB and BC if it is
(1) fenced
(2) cultivated
Or
(3) posted no hunting (signs)

.. it is considered private and you do not enter without permission or else you are trespassing full stop (only $500 fine, too small) and Conservation Officers are coming.

[dmlfarmer]

This is why we need newer laws.

More laws won't stop trespassers. We need enforcement of laws.

I found the best way to decrease trespassing is to actually lay charges if you catch someone hunting without permission. Had a case where a hunter walked right by a no trespassing sign on my farm. I confronted him and he became obnoxious and said he was not hurting anything. Instead of arguing I simply told him he did not have permission to hunt and to leave. I got the licence number of his truck when he left. After he left I took pictures of his footprints and the no trespassing sign. I phoned the game warden and told him I wanted to press charges and gave him the details and pictures. The game warden charged him, it went to court where all I had to do was to identify the person in court as the tresspasser. He lost his gun and the rights to hunt for 3 years. Funny how quick the story got around and how trespassing problems cooled off for a few years.

I have no problem with hunting, and anyone that asks I give permission to. I detail where they can and cannot go on my land (due to cropping/hazards/cattle/etc). I give them a signed letter of permission to enter the land and ask that they call me on the day they will be hunting so I only allow one hunting party out at a time. Finally, both the gamewarden and police know to stop and automatically charge anyone they see out driving in any of my lands if they cannot produce a letter of entry. I am willing to support those charges. Makes it easier for police when they already know I am willing to proceed with charges, and that they do not have to track me down before laying charges.

If all farmers would enforce current trespass laws by laying charges we would not need more laws.

[dmlfarmer]

Saskatchewan’s hunting/trespass rules are so foreign to the rest of us that don’t reside there. In AB and BC if it is
(1) fenced
(2) cultivated
Or
(3) posted no hunting (signs)

.. it is considered private and you do not enter without permission or else you are trespassing full stop (only $500 fine, too small) and Conservation Officers are coming.

Didn't the Kenney government increase trespassing fines in Alberta a couple of years ago? I thought your fines could go as high as $10,000 now for a first offence for trespassing on fenced or posted property.

[burnt]

Use the new tresspass laws and extract some coin from these retards. Those laws have some real teeth now thanks to Moe.

If my understanding is correct, our trespass laws will enforce the amount of the fine as posted on a No Trespassing sign.

IOW, if I put

"No Trespassing
Fines begin at $25,000"

The court will order that amount to be paid by the trespasser.

Photo of license plate, vehicle, individual, signage, whatever... for evidence, location, time and date, all notarized is good, witnesses, if any, are very helpful.

Just a few if those cases and the word should filter around pretty darn quick.

Another instrument which stays out of the court system is a Notice of Liability.

With the notarized claim and evidence as above, one needs only to send 3 notices to the perp and when he ignores it, - which he likely will - the claim is deemed binding by default or implicit consent.


Hand him the fine, when he refuses, it goes in for collection.

A really pinchy method is to file a lien on his property.

I did this with a business that owned me a big chunk of money many years ago and found it, aahhh, shall we say, highly effective.

[jazz]

Moe has beefed up those tresspass laws so much that even the first nations now have to ask for permission to hunt. But farmers have to self enforce because our keystone cops dont come around the rural areas until you have been dead for a few days.

If you confronted them bucket, record it all and thats all the evidence you need. You dont have to prove they were causing damage, just that you have not authorized their entry to your property.

[Simpleton]

You guys care too post some pictures of all the damage these hunters have done

[BreadWinner]

If my understanding is correct, our trespass laws will enforce the amount of the fine as posted on a No Trespassing sign.

IOW, if I put

"No Trespassing
Fines begin at $25,000"

The court will order that amount to be paid by the trespasser.

Photo of license plate, vehicle, individual, signage, whatever... for evidence, location, time and date, all notarized is good, witnesses, if any, are very helpful.

Just a few if those cases and the word should filter around pretty darn quick.

Another instrument which stays out of the court system is a Notice of Liability.

With the notarized claim and evidence as above, one needs only to send 3 notices to the perp and when he ignores it, - which he likely will - the claim is deemed binding by default or implicit consent.


Hand him the fine, when he refuses, it goes in for collection.

A really pinchy method is to file a lien on his property.

I did this with a business that owned me a big chunk of money many years ago and found it, aahhh, shall we say, highly effective.

Its kind of ironic how you want freedom on one hand and no freedom on other things.

[burnt]

Its kind of ironic how you want freedom on one hand and no freedom on other things.

It's a bit sad that your level of comprehension is so limited.

At least, I presume I'm dealing with an adult?

But if you're a minor, I apologize for putting adult expectations on you.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

You guys care too post some pictures of all the damage these hunters have done

I don't think bruised egos show up in a picture.

[jamesb]

As a landowner and hunter I wasnt in favor of changing tresspassing laws because we didnt have a problem. Things have changed and I will look forward to expecting to see more contact me for permission. The thing is a few slob hunters have ruined it for all hunters. To make matters worse the attitude of many "town" hunters toward private land access and almost its their "right". When they start grousing publically about how bad it is that you pushed a few bluffs of trees. Well they can stay the hell off. Contrast that with an encounter of a waitress in a restaurant checking my vax pass and relizing i was the land owner her husband had tracked down to hunt moose and the genuine thankfulness in being able to fill the freezer with a bull moose.

[BreadWinner]

I would guess Im even older than you Burnt maybe thats why you don’t see 2 sides to everything. Think about the negatives if there were no trespassing laws. They won’t bring it in because its too hard to enforce and a waist of time for the most part.