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Fertilizer prices today will bankrupt most farms with a hiccup next year. PERIOD!

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    #49
    bought 46 at $1190 , but only half of normal, my arse hurts
    Last edited by Guest; Nov 30, 2021, 13:18.

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      #50
      Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
      I read an article this morning that Yara is restarting plants in the Netherlands after routine maintenance but still not restarting other plants in the EU due to natural gas price and availability.

      My fertilizer costs are up $45 an acre over last year and I am putting on roughly 10% less than last year. I also don’t put on as much as some on here apparently do. Looks like cost per acre will be up somewhere between $75 and $100 per acre when all inputs taken into account. Certainly an elevated level of risk. Soil tests came back with very little residual
      no one is putting on what they did before , numbnuts wins , consumers will lose

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        #51
        Going to get a couple prices today. Will post what I find out. If N price is $1200 that will be 2.5x the cost of last year. That makes it about $50+/ac more just for nitrogen. Sure seems like we are losing before we start. No snow here yet.

        Also, saw on Twitter a thread about wall to wall oats cause they were $10/bu. Not sure these guys have looked into new crop prices. Around $5.50/bu here for fall. Guys chasing markets and high inputs costs maybe should be careful.

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          #52
          Originally posted by 4GFarms View Post
          Going to get a couple prices today. Will post what I find out. If N price is $1200 that will be 2.5x the cost of last year. That makes it about $50+/ac more just for nitrogen. Sure seems like we are losing before we start. No snow here yet.

          Also, saw on Twitter a thread about wall to wall oats cause they were $10/bu. Not sure these guys have looked into new crop prices. Around $5.50/bu here for fall. Guys chasing markets and high inputs costs maybe should be careful.
          $45+ per acre for oat seed too if you have to buy

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            #53
            Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
            Soil tests came back with very little residual
            Thats weird, same here. After having quite a build up of residual N over the past few yrs, all of a sudden she is all low after an average crop year with little moisture. And I had 2 different companies test this time just to make sure they werent fcking me.

            Option to go more lentils but that would break rotation and probably result in a yeild hit and another round of fungicide. I guess a second pass of fungicide is better than a $50 an acre increase in fertility costs.

            No easy answers out there, and now we have all committed to growing in a higher input environment without the back end being covered. Risky.

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              #54
              Originally posted by Taiga View Post
              $45+ per acre for oat seed too if you have to buy
              Good luck finding decent seed

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                #55
                There is a urea futures market at;

                UMAc1

                From Middle East as lots of production there due to stranded gas but no market so all export.
                Might be usefull to keep track of price direction an maybe local basis?

                On the chart appears price more than double since end of Sept.

                Some other usefull data there.
                Last edited by shtferbrains; Nov 30, 2021, 11:03.

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                  #56
                  Woke up looked at the bank account and smiled a big smile. Life is Good!



                  Paid for the shit today.



                  Can't stop crying, it's like someone died that I love.

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                    #57
                    Talk is that there is no good moisture as far down as you want to dig.
                    None in the root zone, a smidge on the surface.
                    Can't make many plans other than for a below average crop next year

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                      #58
                      well, when burying piles this fall , it was 10' down, IN THE SWAMP !!!!!!!!!

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                        #59
                        I read an interesting article this morning talking about how much money India will be spending subsidizing fertilizer for farmers in India. They will be spending a projected $20.64 billion dollars to ensure supplies amid global shortages. From what I could find there is roughly 395 million acres of farmland in India. It works out to a $52 per acre subsidy. So in India fertilizer is subsidized and they pay no carbon tax. In Canada our government wants us to use less fertilizer and is increasing the cost of everything(except dyed fuel) with a carbon tax!

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                          #60
                          Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
                          Good luck finding decent seed
                          Local seed grower.
                          NO Oats or Bly seed left.all cleaned and moved out...his bins are empty already...

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