fertilizer to conservative's questions

[SASKFARMER]

Tom have you not got it yet I do math all the time some got early a lot haven’t it’s a example.

You did good for you now move on. My god good for you. Think. Lots didn’t get there crap insurance checks yet.

My god it’s an example.

[TOM4CWB]

Tom have you not got it yet I do math all the time some got early a lot haven’t it’s a example.

You did good for you now move on. My god good for you. Think. Lots didn’t get there crap insurance checks yet.

My god it’s an example.

This is about responsible application of crop nutrients... The fed wants to cut our supply by 30% by 2030. You sure make a good argument , a 'gift horse' to environmental groups and the liberals alike... that there is irresponsible application of crop nutrients right now... on your farm.


We have a really big hill hard to climb.... just to keep the crop nutrients we had available to our farms...that we applied in 2021...

We had a terrible drought year with high carry over nutrient going into 2022 for the majority of us in western Canada!!!.

Yet you stated we farmers are going bankrupt from the planned over application of un-needed nutrients.

Instead many farmers...will not spend significantly more on Fert in 2022... yet I am supposed to provide significant proof that the CDN Fed Liberal's nutrient plan is NOT responsible good public policy... when you just blew up our defence with a grumpy, horrible, example of irresponsible nutrient management!!!

Please Retract your unwise fert plan example... Please. Fighting [you] our own is useless unproductive energy...but now you [think it is clever] to force many of us farmers... to [spend a whole whack of time and energy] to fight against what you published here [on Agriville] in a grumpy notion of 'poor me' Im'm going bankrupt nutrient management false irrelevant unreliable... intentional mis-information.

Please wake up! This ain't funny!!!

Sincerely

[SASKFARMER]

I agree tommy your not that funny.


It was an example of a full fertilizer plan for max yield. In your little kneck of the woods maybe you cant grow a max yield crop?

I don't care it had nothing to do with the feds and their stupid starvation plan.

Farmers need to wake up and fight that at all costs.

But it was an example.

You have ever done math tom and come up with different scenarios.


Maybe you should.

The ending of the wheat board was a great plan but too bad someone didn't scratch on a paper out a few scenarios of what would happen without proper reporting or other things.

It was an example now move on.

[TOM4CWB]

Saskfarmer wrote;

"It was an example now move on."

Some of us are trying to actually fight the CDN Liberal Feds [passing laws with farm killing plans].... with resolutions and negotiations to modify restrictive policies like the '30% 2030 starvation plan for our farms.... and moratoriums to stop the destruction of wildlife habitats and removal of trees and hedgerows....

Some Folks [like you on here] bitterly complain about our Commodity group leadership...

Saying...that we don't do anything useful.

Yet with 'Friends like you" who needs enemies SaskFarmer.... Farmers can be their own worst enemies... you provided a good example of why this happens.

What resolutions and work are you doing... to stop the Liberal CDN Gov plan to starve your farm SaskFarmer in consultation with your Commodity Groups in SK?

You boast about your fleet of construction equipment bought to destroy wildlife and Climate refuge habitat... while providing ammunition to environmentalists to pass restrictive laws that will make farming an over regulated nightmare...simply because personal responsibility and self discipline are Not part of your farm environmental plan.

Cheers... the fight is lonely one Saskfarmer... thanks for not doing your share.

When the hot dry winds ravage your crops... because you destroyed the environmental protection with cats and trackhoes... [to rip up wetlands] then...you could complain to your self for magnifying the negative weather problems on all our farms!

[SASKFARMER]

Tom your way of being nice has achieved what.

You ****ed up the ending of the CWB without actually pushing for other measures to protect farmers

Most groups do **** all you know it.

Heck one group was spouting last summer the large crop going to be harvested this fall.

Farm groups arent working for farmers.

[SASKFARMER]

Tom for too long the idiots have run the asylum and farmers did nothing to fight back. It's time no more negotiations with ****ing morons or we will be done.

I say let the ****ers starve that is the only way this shit show will end.

Being nice has achieved **** all.

[SASKFARMER]

It was an example of a full system for max yields.

Maybe you need a rebate on variable rate tec or a gov handout to help you grow a crop. The reality is this way of doing business is just a carrot to get idiots to follow.

It doesn't work.

[HITTGrapevine]

World wide Supply/Demand


Europe is predicting 25% fertilizer shortage for up coming growing season. Shortages have been in the making for months now.

What do you think o Toole can do? Your grasping at straws.

You're honestly thinking Canadian Fertilizer companies are going to have a domestic price for Canadian farmers with a world wide shortage and profits that can be made?

Are you forgetting the two tier domestic wheat pricing system of years gone by and where that ended up.

As Neil Young would sing "Keep on Rocking in the Free World"

Haven't you heard? There's a shortage of everything, ;-)
Fertilizer, machinery, automobiles, freight, semi-conductors, useless consumer goods made in China, etc, etc.
That's why we're all paying more for everything.
Artificial supply crisis is all around us.
Here's a comment from BNN about "production discipline" in the auto market.
"According to Ian MacDonald, the chief marketing officer at AutoTrader.ca, carmakers may be learning the value of production discipline, and re-evaluate their inventory models."
Is the fertilizer industry any different?
The whole world is using production discipline to to ratchet up prices.
When demand reaches a fevered pitch, they'll increase production, but MSRPs won't go down.
Nothing new here.
Just big companies doing what they do, looking for ways to generate profits.

[jamesb]

It was an example of a full system for max yields.

Maybe you need a rebate on variable rate tec or a gov handout to help you grow a crop. The reality is this way of doing business is just a carrot to get idiots to follow.

It doesn't work.

Yes it really appears by the nature of the GARS type program, they encourage their customers to go full bore on inputs, with the idea that - go for it, your covered. To be honest its a lot different from a cautious approach in the past. I remember back in the day the soil tests from the U of S had a range of recommendations based on soil moisture conditions. I believe that some will rethink that full on plan. Lots will ride on what the cost of margin insurance will be going forward. We are busy reclaiming farm land now that conditions are good for it. I say reclaim cause almost without question when we push bush and break land up for the first time in modern times there is almost always rock piles and other evidence of cultivation that probably occurred before things got wetter after ww2. I have my grampa's RCAF aerial photos that he bought in the 1950's. On most of our land almost no tree's existed for a lot of the land until the last half of the last century. The fertility on those reclaimed areas is amazing.

[BTO780]

There will be huge cut backs in rates. Spending $135-$145 to grow wheat that’s “maybe” worth $10 come next fall is absolutely insane. Even today’s price doesn’t justify anything close to that.
Taking $12.50 wheat to buy $1250T urea is ludicrous.

Production is already cut for 2022, and haven’t even factored in another possible drought.