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    #16
    A5 Quote. "All of which misses the bigger point, which is that we as farmers should be doing everything we can to increase CO2 in the atmosphere not decrease free fertilizer."

    Huh? So you want more climate warming? Unbelievable.

    Where are you getting these loony ideas that we need more CO2 in the atmosphere?

    Where is the science that says this is what we need when science is showing the exact opposite?

    So all the farm organizations and farmers asking for a viable and significant carbon sequestration program to help and pay them to reduce carbon emissions are suddenly going to say we should put more carbon into the air not less?
    Last edited by chuckChuck; Dec 9, 2021, 09:17.

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      #17
      Welcome back Chuck.
      You had been quiet for so long we thought you had been kicked off permanently for your obsessions with off topic posts. Apparently only a time out warning. Good to see you spent the time reconsidering your attitude and came back with a new improved outlook.

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        #18
        Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
        A5 Quote. "All of which misses the bigger point, which is that we as farmers should be doing everything we can to increase CO2 in the atmosphere not decrease free fertilizer."

        Huh? So you want more climate warming? Unbelievable.

        Where are you getting these loony ideas that we need more CO2 in the atmosphere?

        Where is the science that says this is what we need when science is showing the exact opposite?

        So all the farm organizations and farmers asking for a viable and significant carbon sequestration program to help and pay them to reduce carbon emissions are suddenly going to say we should put more carbon into the air not less?
        The plants scrub it out of the atmosphere. Plants breath co2 like we do oxygen. You learn that in elementary school!

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          #19
          Originally posted by TASFarms View Post
          The plants scrub it out of the atmosphere. Plants breath co2 like we do oxygen. You learn that in elementary school!
          And then, if you spend enough time watching CBC, you unlearn photosynthesis, and become an uneducated internet troll.
          I often wonder how teachers manage to keep a straight face while simultaneously teaching photosynthesis, and promoting the global warming agenda at every opportunity.
          Last edited by AlbertaFarmer5; Dec 9, 2021, 11:50.

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            #20
            Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
            Huh? So you want more climate warming?
            More? I am still waiting for the first round of warming. When is it coming?

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              #21
              So, carbon can be sequestered but, someone please enlighten me as to how carbon inthe soil can be measured?

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                #22
                Originally posted by jazz View Post
                More? I am still waiting for the first round of warming. When is it coming?
                Perhaps you missed it, after all these global warmings can be very tricky and stealthy nowadays.
                For example, did you miss the polar vortex, or the Texas ice storms or the record cold temperatures in Antarctica and Russia or the ice growth in Antarctica etc.?
                The signs are all there, you just need to adjust your perceptions, lower your standards and hypocritically change your definitions constantly.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Braveheart View Post
                  So, carbon can be sequestered but, someone please enlighten me as to how carbon inthe soil can be measured?
                  Simply measure the organic matter as a proxy for the carbon.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
                    Simply measure the organic matter as a proxy for the carbon.
                    I wondered that as well, but if that's the case whether zero till, or perennial forages, or "regenerative ag", organic matter goes up slightly to a certain value then plateaus? There must be a way to measure yet to be discovered.

                    Perhaps the whole carbon thing is a crock. In the news today they were whining about a shortage of soft drinks and other beverages partly due to a shortage of CO2?!!! WTH, I thought there was too much.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
                      Perhaps you missed it, after all these global warmings can be very tricky and stealthy nowadays.
                      For example, did you miss the polar vortex, or the Texas ice storms or the record cold temperatures in Antarctica and Russia or the ice growth in Antarctica etc.?
                      The signs are all there, you just need to adjust your perceptions, lower your standards and hypocritically change your definitions constantly.
                      You forgot to mention the record and near record heat and dryness of 2021 in western north america as more evidence the earth is cooling! LOL

                      Where is the scientific evidence that the earth is cooling and that we need more CO2 in the atmosphere?

                      Which scientific organizations are saying this A5?

                      I will give readers the answer since you seem completely unwilling to produce any evidence. No scientific scientific organizations are saying the earth is cooling and that we need more CO2 in the atmosphere.


                      That's why many farmers and farm organizations are asking to be paid for carbon sequestration and other greenhouse gas emission reductions.
                      Last edited by chuckChuck; Dec 10, 2021, 07:31.

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                        #26
                        Greenpeace this week raised growing concern over companies buying carbon credits . And it's not just Oil and Gas co's but everyone wants to put on there box that they are planet friendly. Buy the credits , look good in public, and pass the cost onto your customers. ... Belching cows are the least of our problems !!!!!!!

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                          You forgot to mention the record and near record heat and dryness of 2021 in western north america as more evidence the earth is cooling! LOL

                          Where is the scientific evidence that the earth is cooling and that we need more CO2 in the atmosphere?

                          Which scientific organizations are saying this A5?

                          I will give readers the answer since you seem completely unwilling to produce any evidence. No scientific scientific organizations are saying the earth is cooling and that we need more CO2 in the atmosphere.


                          That's why many farmers and farm organizations are asking to be paid for carbon sequestration and other greenhouse gas emission reductions.

                          The smart farmers and organizations are asking to be
                          Paid not because they believe the shit they just
                          Want to get the tax back. Play the game everyone
                          Else has bought into. It’s just business who the hell
                          Amongst us farmers really knows what level
                          Or c02 we re creating or sequestering or what the hell
                          It’s doing anywhere one way or the other.

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                            #28
                            Interesting article on dthpf.com by Chris Clayton: “Carbon market continues to evolve.”

                            Companies like Basf talk about the carbon credit market being global and that programs will be developed for corn, soybeans, wheat, canola etc. In the U.S. farmers will be selling carbon credits but do not pay a carbon tax. Has anyone in Canada seen programs from companies like Basf and Bayer which have started programs in the U.S.? Looks to me it is more about selling more products than it is the environment in the U.S.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
                              Interesting article on dthpf.com by Chris Clayton: “Carbon market continues to evolve.”

                              Companies like Basf talk about the carbon credit market being global and that programs will be developed for corn, soybeans, wheat, canola etc. In the U.S. farmers will be selling carbon credits but do not pay a carbon tax. Has anyone in Canada seen programs from companies like Basf and Bayer which have started programs in the U.S.? Looks to me it is more about selling more products than it is the environment in the U.S.
                              It’s always been about selling and trading a “commodity” than anything to do with environment

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
                                It’s always been about selling and trading a “commodity” than anything to do with environment
                                So what is stopping me as a farmer from putting up my shingle and selling carbon credits/off sets based on my farms past 38 years of zero till and going into the future???? at a discounted rate of say $50.00 and acre per year..

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