Canola seed

[Partners]

Volunteer around the yard always weird..
Few tiny pods...

[makar]

Of course, I'm thinking of the scenario where they're just plain isn't enough seed available, and seeding our own is the only option, personally I would rather pay the tax fee, or at least a portion of it to be able to seed at all, rather than go without. If we go two years in a row with drastically lower exportable canola, wants due to drought, the second time due to a seed shortage, we will lose some of these markets for good.

And anyone but us would care?

[ajl]

Bankrupt china (see the Evergrand post) can't afford $25 canola so it will not be a bad thing that canola acres decline. We are seeding too much of it if we get a good yield. Lengthen those rotations. Canola yields are going to decline long term due to phosphate shortages as well. If the canola council would come up with some accurate yield figures on the past few years we would see yields trending lower already and fertilizer shortages will keep that trend continuing. The government biofuel scam is going nowhere as well. Consumers are going feel some reality at the check out this coming year. Article on that in the press today.

[shtferbrains]

It would be inaresting to see 2nd gen seed from your farm grown against contra seed from southern climates.
It used to be said seed multiplied far south didn't compair to locally grown.
Maybe Tom has a comment?

Also some say bulls from the US don't hold up here?

[V Belt]

If you take a volunteer crop to harvest, Bayer or BASF or whoever owns the patent still say you owe them their tech fee then and may come a calling. Fawking Pirates

If that worked so good , why didn't we do that a along ime ago?

[makar]

If that worked so good , why didn't we do that a along ime ago?

Refer to Percy a few posts above.

[Sodbuster]

Seed companies have known for 3 months that they would be short of seed, I would think that they would be scrambling to seed more somewhere between Mexico and and South America. Canola seed production only takes 4-5 months, that gives them time to ship it here and treat, would be a tight schedule but it’s possible. Where else can you sell $800 a bushel canola.

[makar]

Probably more selling by the kernel.

[seedsman]

I grow canola seed for 2 companies so hopefully can answer a few of the questions that were asked. All the seed production in AB is irrigated. Our yields this year ranged from about 60% of average to average for the 5 fields we had. Most of the problems were due to poor pollination in the heat. Sometimes there would be stalk with 15 empty pods in a row, and then a few pods with 5-10 seeds and then another string of empty ones. Yields were lower than company agronomists were expecting.

There is always some seed produced in Chile. However, it is difficult to increase production on short notice. Fields need to be free of volunteer canola and have a mile of isolation from other canola. Parent seed needs to be shipped from Canada in August (before they really knew how low the yields were going to be). Seed is usually planted in September and October and harvested in February. Then the seed needs to be tested for hybridity, cleaned, and shipped back to Canada. It usually all arrives here in time for seeding in May.

It would be impossible for a seed company to suddenly start seed production in a totally new area.

[furrowtickler]

I grow canola seed for 2 companies so hopefully can answer a few of the questions that were asked. All the seed production in AB is irrigated. Our yields this year ranged from about 60% of average to average for the 5 fields we had. Most of the problems were due to poor pollination in the heat. Sometimes there would be stalk with 15 empty pods in a row, and then a few pods with 5-10 seeds and then another string of empty ones. Yields were lower than company agronomists were expecting.

There is always some seed produced in Chile. However, it is difficult to increase production on short notice. Fields need to be free of volunteer canola and have a mile of isolation from other canola. Parent seed needs to be shipped from Canada in August (before they really knew how low the yields were going to be). Seed is usually planted in September and October and harvested in February. Then the seed needs to be tested for hybridity, cleaned, and shipped back to Canada. It usually all arrives here in time for seeding in May.

It would be impossible for a seed company to suddenly start seed production in a totally new area.

Very well answered , pollination was poor and Chile production was ramped up by those that could and who seen the issues early enough