Canola seed

[AlbertaFarmer5]

lots were BB here over the years , good for bug spray sales , and sprayer hours
you think these seed treatments don't work , try it without
no problem with genetics though , grows well , and handles chemical well , just be ready to live in sprayer

I was assuming that if it came down to allowing farm raised seed to be used, that we could still buy the latest and greatest seed treatments and apply them to the proper legal channels
There has to be a reason why so much effort is put into hybrid seed production. There has to be some yield or treat penalty to growing second generation seed, or else that would be the standard model wouldn't it?

[blackpowder]

Guessing it's not the bottom 1/3 of potential you're giving up but the top 1/3.
I need that top 1/3 here.
If your fixed costs are so low you don't need the top third, you really should be going full throttle anyway.

[Kraut]

So, does the industry have a contingency plan for this type of event? Seedi g half the acres doesn't sound like a good option for the future of our industry.
If there is only enough seed for half the acres, would we be legally permitted to bulk up our orders with brown bag seed?
Has anyone ever taken a volunteer canola crop to harvest? Do the hybrid traits carry through the second generation? Will we be encouraged to seed 2 lbs or less per acre?
Will South American supplies come through?

If you take a volunteer crop to harvest, Bayer or BASF or whoever owns the patent still say you owe them their tech fee then and may come a calling. Fawking Pirates

[AlbertaFarmer5]

If you take a volunteer crop to harvest, Bayer or BASF or whoever owns the patent still say you owe them their tech fee then and may come a calling. Fawking Pirates

Of course, I'm thinking of the scenario where there just plain isn't enough seed available, and seeding our own is the only option, personally I would rather pay the tech fee, or at least a portion of it to be able to seed at all, rather than go without. If we go two years in a row with drastically lower exportable canola, the first time due to drought, the second time due to a seed shortage, we will lose some of these markets for good.

[Partners]

Volunteer around the yard always weird..
Few tiny pods...

[makar]

Of course, I'm thinking of the scenario where they're just plain isn't enough seed available, and seeding our own is the only option, personally I would rather pay the tax fee, or at least a portion of it to be able to seed at all, rather than go without. If we go two years in a row with drastically lower exportable canola, wants due to drought, the second time due to a seed shortage, we will lose some of these markets for good.

And anyone but us would care?

[ajl]

Bankrupt china (see the Evergrand post) can't afford $25 canola so it will not be a bad thing that canola acres decline. We are seeding too much of it if we get a good yield. Lengthen those rotations. Canola yields are going to decline long term due to phosphate shortages as well. If the canola council would come up with some accurate yield figures on the past few years we would see yields trending lower already and fertilizer shortages will keep that trend continuing. The government biofuel scam is going nowhere as well. Consumers are going feel some reality at the check out this coming year. Article on that in the press today.

[shtferbrains]

It would be inaresting to see 2nd gen seed from your farm grown against contra seed from southern climates.
It used to be said seed multiplied far south didn't compair to locally grown.
Maybe Tom has a comment?

Also some say bulls from the US don't hold up here?

[V Belt]

If you take a volunteer crop to harvest, Bayer or BASF or whoever owns the patent still say you owe them their tech fee then and may come a calling. Fawking Pirates

If that worked so good , why didn't we do that a along ime ago?

[makar]

If that worked so good , why didn't we do that a along ime ago?

Refer to Percy a few posts above.