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[WiltonRanch]

How long will everyone transition from fossil fuels before unintended consequences present themselves. With so many industrial processes intertwined with use of byproducts from oil coal and gas where do these products come from? For instance sulphur is a byproduct of sour oil production. With a sustained push for sweet Oil over sour supplies of sulphur are lower. Sulphur is essential in a host of manufacturing and mineral extraction processes. We will always adapt but how many transitions can we stand at once?

[rodd]

Wow, my post got some great responses, thanks. I have learned alot. This is what this site should be for.

We burn 25% of the diesel per seeded acre that we did in 2002. I have the records to prove that, but I really don't brag about being ecofriendly. We live hour away from farm (retirement home), keep both houses heated, I spend time at farm when needed in winter. Commute a lot because of choice. We travel a lot, by car and plane, so we are definitely not carbon neutral. I admit we are energy pigs, but the farm offsets that. Yeah right.

On the efficiency note, I use a Diesel Jetta over 50 MPG to commute around 30,000 kms/year, 3/4 ton stays at farm unless I am hauling something big. Truck gets around 6000 km/year. I wish we had more diesel options in Canada for small vehicles. Diesels in cars and suv's are a great option. Rented a diesel Mitsubishi 8 passenger in Costa Rica, amazing vehicle. Have been in an Audi 8 diesel at 240 km/hr on Autobahn, amazing power, clean and quiet also. Biodiesel and a diesel make sense I think (ignore cold debate on biodiesel)

I have looked at solar panels for farm and if I were 10 years younger they would be installed. I'll let next generation do that. Looks like an 8 year payback, but would be quicker with increasing power rates.

I really hope small nuclear reactor power plants show up soon. Yes, in my back yard. Not worried, US puts 5000 people on a nuclear aircraft for months at a time, no problem. 400 in a nuclear sub for months. Think about that. Nuclear is the next energy source to power our EV's

[ALBERTAFARMER4]

I'm curious how much gravel you are travelling on AF4? And what are you seeing with regards to under body road rash?

We have a more direct route to town that takes 8 miles of gravel, or can get to blacktop in 2 miles but makes the trip 4 miles longer.

Two biggest issues I have with today's vehicles are their inability to stand up to road-rash! Seems that if it isnt built on a truck chassis, the undersides get thoroughly trashed by both gravel roads, and the friggin gravel the road departments seem intent on spreading all over our highways in the winter... fuel lines, brake lines, electrical harnesses, sensors, etc all have to be wrapped with heater hose or else you end up with serious issues.

I could see an EV eliminating alot of those sorts of things, but are the battery packs protected well enough? Any exposed wiring harnesses/sensors? Are there nooks and crannies that have salt and gravel get into them that you cant wash/clean out? I'm thinking of the galvanic reactions caused by the road salt that rot out steel fuel tanks around here, or the jamming of small rocks between said tanks and their protective shells that eventually wear holes into the plastic ones.

I do 4miles of gravel per day. Gravel is going to be tough on any car. Most of my problems are rocks getting in the brakes. The bottom of the vehicle is very well covered and the battery pack has a steel plate underneath it. Ground clearance is about 6”.

I did have one issue with a rabbit getting inside and chewing up my wiring harness.

[fjlip]

Climate idiots/great reset morons think all that is FREE! Borrow more $$$ crooks!

[helmsdale]

Please?

We will. If not in direct upgrade of our own private infrastructure, then through fixed charges and higher rates on the transmission side for public infrastructure. Even if electricity were free, that cost is going to be staggering!

Want to heat your house with electric heat and hot water with an electric tankless, as well as do all your cooking and charge your EV? You wont be doing that with a standard 100amp service. It'll be 200amp minimum, if not 300. 300 might not even be enough to allow you the freedom to do whatever, whenever you want.

And then standard USEB service entry wont be enough from the pole. You'll have to rip up your yard to put #00, or #000 copper, or #000/#0000 aluminum in. Then you'll need a bigger transformer on the pole. Then if you're not alone in the upgrade on your block, they'll have to up the voltage on existing transfer lines, or completely refurb the entire residential let alone commercial distribution network. One hell of a make work project.

[burnt]

Who is paying for the improved infrastructure?

Please?

[helmsdale]

I'm curious how much gravel you are travelling on AF4? And what are you seeing with regards to under body road rash?

We have a more direct route to town that takes 8 miles of gravel, or can get to blacktop in 2 miles but makes the trip 4 miles longer.

Two biggest issues I have with today's vehicles are their inability to stand up to road-rash! Seems that if it isnt built on a truck chassis, the undersides get thoroughly trashed by both gravel roads, and the friggin gravel the road departments seem intent on spreading all over our highways in the winter... fuel lines, brake lines, electrical harnesses, sensors, etc all have to be wrapped with heater hose or else you end up with serious issues.

I could see an EV eliminating alot of those sorts of things, but are the battery packs protected well enough? Any exposed wiring harnesses/sensors? Are there nooks and crannies that have salt and gravel get into them that you cant wash/clean out? I'm thinking of the galvanic reactions caused by the road salt that rot out steel fuel tanks around here, or the jamming of small rocks between said tanks and their protective shells that eventually wear holes into the plastic ones.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Quoting chuck Any excess in the surplus months can easily be stored in an EV battery and help reduce reliance on fossil fuels and reduce carbon emissions
What a brilliant solution. Did you come up with that all by yourself? So we each just need to buy enough $50,000+ EVs to store the excess solar during the summer, so we can use it in the winter when the sun doesn't shine. Sounds like a carbon neutral plan to me.
But perhaps I have misunderstood you, and you only expect to store it for one day at a time, not seasonally. In which case the typical commuter will plug their car into the solar panels to charge it when they are not using the car. According to the car and driver article where I was reading the Anderson report, they used the number of 90% home charging. So 90% of commuters who don't happen to work the night shift, will be plugging their electric vehicles into the solar panels at night to charge them up to store the electricity for the next day's commute during the daylight hours.
That sounds almost as practical as storing excess June solar energy in an EV to be used in December.

[WiltonRanch]

What makes you think an EV isn’t reliable at these temperatures?

I’m talking about the power draw heating the cabin. Still am not opposed to EV. Just want to see battery tech improve so cold weather doesn’t impact the range as bad. 95% of my driving does not involve more than 60 km round trip. EV would fit my lifestyle quite well but it is flipping cold which worries me.

[shtferbrains]

I think EV’s are great where they fit
And if I lived in a city where you couldn’t see across the street, why wouldn’t I want one
But they don’t fit here in frozen butt**** sask
And there is the problem with numb nuts plan

Looked seriously at a hybrid SUV for primary transportation meaning not using a late model 1/2 ton. So go to new SUV and older pickup. The reverse of what we have now. Looked close enough to say I was less interested the more I looked. We rarely use the SUV we have. Still like the big Pickup.

Just not ready as the saying goes.