Cold out

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Hamloc, nobody is suggesting solar alone is going to replace all other sources of electricity and energy so you can stop the spinning and bullshitting. Especially in Canada where we have 60% of electricity already coming from hydro.

This will be a transition over time and who knows what the total energy system will look like in the coming decades.

Even Steven Harper said we would stop using fossil fuels as energy sources by 2100. Steve the darling of the Alberta oil sector said that? LOL

How true.
But it does bring up one important question. If no one knows what the energy system will look like in the coming decades, how can we possibly mandate an outcome only 8 years from now? Doesn't that indicate that someone must know, otherwise how could it be mandated? Our politicians wouldn't possibly mandate something without knowing how or if it is possible would they? Keeping in mind that 2030 is only 8 years away now.

[riders2010]

Buy a Ford..fantastic heaters.

Too many lawsuits people freezing to death
Waiting for tow trucks after break downs.

[Partners]

Too many lawsuits people freezing to death
Waiting for tow trucks after break downs.

Say what?

[furrowtickler]

Hamloc, nobody is suggesting solar alone is going to replace all other sources of electricity and energy so you can stop the spinning and bullshitting. Especially in Canada where we have 60% of electricity already coming from hydro.

This will be a transition over time and who knows what the total energy system will look like in the coming decades.

Even Steven Harper said we would stop using fossil fuels as energy sources by 2100. Steve the darling of the Alberta oil sector said that? LOL

Maybe by 2100 Harper will be right
But until a viable , affordable, reliable source is ready for western Canada , the Liberal targets are complete fairy tails that will cause tremendous hardship in cold climates like western Canada especially

[seldomseen]

OH and Chucky
While you enjoy your nice warm house and shop on these very cold days at a very affordable price maybe say Thank you to the guy that made it all possible. Grant Devine!

[chuckChuck]

How true.
But it does bring up one important question. If no one knows what the energy system will look like in the coming decades, how can we possibly mandate an outcome only 8 years from now? Doesn't that indicate that someone must know, otherwise how could it be mandated? Our politicians wouldn't possibly mandate something without knowing how or if it is possible would they? Keeping in mind that 2030 is only 8 years away now.

A5 What does 2030 have to do with Canada's pledge to be carbon neutral by 2050?

What mandate in 8 years are you referring to? Are you making stuff up again? Or do you just don't know what you are talking about?

Canada's commitment is to go net neutral is by 2050.

"Canada has joined over 120 countries in committing to be net-zero emissions by 2050, including all other G7 nations (United Kingdom, United States, Germany, Italy, France, and Japan), A number of provinces and cities have already made net-zero-by-2050 commitments, including Guelph, Vancouver, Hamilton, Toronto, Halifax, Newfoundland and Labrador, and most recently Quebec. Prince Edward Island has also pledged to reach net-zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2040. Nova Scotia and British Columbia have put into place, or plan to put into place, provincial net-zero-by-2050 legislation."

How Canada can decarbonize by 2050

https://www2.deloitte.com/ca/en/pages/strategy/articles/how-canada-can-decarbonize-by-2050.html

Deloite lists in broad terms the following that can be done to get to net zero:
Renewable energy, Nature based solutions, energy efficiency, electrification. fuel switching, methane management. They also cite several emerging technologies including carbon capture utilization and storage, hydrogen, direct air capture, small modular reactors.

Who knows what will be accomplished by 2050. But are you sure that we won't be a long way down the road to getting to net zero?

But since you believe more carbon dioxide and greenhouse gases in the atmosphere are a good thing there is not much point in you discussing how we are going to get to net zero is there? LOL

Meanwhile, it must be difficult for you to witness the shutdown of coal fired plants, the adoption of cleaner gas and the rapid and large installation of renewable energy capacity in you beloved Alberta. Jeez A5 that sounds like the momentum to net zero in Alberta is happening whether you like it or not.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Sorry chuck, I thought you might still remember a few days ago when we were discussing Canada's legislation to cut CO2 by 40% by 2030.
For example
In July, Canada formally committed to reducing its greenhouse gas emissions by 40 to 45 per cent below 2005 levels by 2030

But it still isn't good enough for the extreme left:
The federal NDP and Green Party of Canada, who had pushed Trudeau to adopt a target of at least 50 and 60 per cent, respectively, slammed Thursday’s announcement as underwhelming.
Can we scale up hydro in time for that?
Considering that they just started strategic consultation at the end of 2021, on how to plan to get there.
Or this their 2030 plan massively impossible too?

[chuckChuck]

Sorry chuck, I thought you might still remember a few days ago when we were discussing Canada's legislation to cut CO2 by 40% by 2030.
For example
In July, Canada formally committed to reducing its greenhouse gas emissions by 40 to 45 per cent below 2005 levels by 2030

But it still isn't good enough for the extreme left:
The federal NDP and Green Party of Canada, who had pushed Trudeau to adopt a target of at least 50 and 60 per cent, respectively, slammed Thursday’s announcement as underwhelming.
Can we scale up hydro in time for that?
Considering that they just started strategic consultation at the end of 2021, on how to plan to get there.
Or this their 2030 plan massively impossible too?

But you still think we dont need to do anything? All the premiers have climate action plans as well. Kenney and Moe have their own carbon taxes and plans to reduce emissions. So do you consider them left wingers too? LOL

[Hamloc]

But you still think we dont need to do anything? All the premiers have climate action plans as well. Kenney and Moe have their own carbon taxes and plans to reduce emissions. So do you consider them left wingers too? LOL

So Chuck on your cut and paste the first thing mentioned as a solution to get to net zero is renewables. I carefully researched what it would take to replace natural gas with solar and you called me a bullshitter and then you post an article that pushes renewables as a solution. So please tell me again how what I posted was incorrect or in your words bullshit?!?!

[AlbertaFarmer5]

But you still think we dont need to do anything?

Nice deflection when you were proven wrong. It doesn't matter what I think, does it. Our politicians elected by other parts of the country made the decision for me.
And with less than 8 years left to go, they have barely even started consulting about how to go about it.

[chuckChuck]

So Chuck on your cut and paste the first thing mentioned as a solution to get to net zero is renewables. I carefully researched what it would take to replace natural gas with solar and you called me a bullshitter and then you post an article that pushes renewables as a solution. So please tell me again how what I posted was incorrect or in your words bullshit?!?!

Because you try to bullshit us that I said we are going to use only solar to replace all other energy sources. Why waste our time with such crap.

Even after I have said we are going to use all of the sources that are often mentioned except for coal. In your backyard they are building renewables and have a plan to reduce emissions in multiple ways.

[chuckChuck]

Nice deflection when you were proven wrong. It doesn't matter what I think, does it. Our politicians elected by other parts of the country made the decision for me.
And with less than 8 years left to go, they have barely even started consulting about how to go about it.

Answer the question. You don't think excess greenhouse gases are a problem. Correct?

Saskpower and Alberta utilities already have a plan to cut emissions like every other province. The plan is underway but you wont admit it. Coal is done, gas is replacing coal with half the emissions. CCS is in the works. Renewables are well underway. So what's your excuse now?