Cold out

[AlbertaFarmer5]

In Alberta and Saskatchewan yes.

Answer the question. You don't think excess greenhouse gases are a problem. Correct?

You are deflecting again Chuck. We've been through this discussion over and over again.
But if you want to go through it again,
First you will have to define greenhouse gas then you need to define excess.
And in order to answer those two questions you are going to have to answer the questions I have been asking of you for the past few years regarding climate sensitivity to CO2 etc.

[chuckChuck]

Yup we know you don't think human caused climate change is a real or a problem or excess greenhouse gases in the atmosphere are an issue.

A real bonafide climate change science denier.

[chuckChuck]

You really need to keep your story straight. Integrity farmer was on here a few days ago contradicting everything you say, and telling us that natural gas is even worse than coal.
Personally, I am very happy to see our landlocked gas which is often simply a byproduct of oil, being put to good use instead of being flared. Save the coal for a rainy day.

The production of natural gas is a big problem when there is so much methane leaking from facilities. That is why the governments and industry are working on a plan to reduce methane emmisions from the oil and gas industry.

But when it is used for electricity efficiently it has about 50% less CO2 emissions than coal. That's why Alberta is shifting to gas from coal.

[Hamloc]

Because you try to bullshit us that I said we are going to use only solar to replace all other energy sources. Why waste our time with such crap.

Even after I have said we are going to use all of the sources that are often mentioned except for coal. In your backyard they are building renewables and have a plan to reduce emissions in multiple ways.

Hmmm, I don’t recall saying that you said we are only going to use solar. In fact in rereading the post that I made responding to Furrow in which I detailed the size of solar system required to replace the natural gas and electricity on my farm with solar your name wasn’t even mentioned. I did mention Steven Guilbeault’s name and I stand by that. As I have said before Greenpeace certainly believes renewables are the only path as does the Green Party of Canada. As for you while you are a fan of renewables you seem to constantly mention a more diversified suite of generation sources are required. That is good to see. But why do you refuse to comment on my solar system calculations instead attacking me for something I never said?!

[shtferbrains]

China uses 4.2 BILLION tons of coal.
They have 41 new coal plants planed to start in the near future.
They have ONE new plant just starting now that produces 1/2 of all Canadian coal plants.

We are sinking CO2 for them.
Thier economy will leap ahead.
We will be Venezuela.

[furrowtickler]

Good to see your not on board with Mr Treudau's unattainable 2030 target Chuck. Might be some indication other like minded may see them as pie in the sky promises he is known for.

Lets go with Harpers goals. By 2100 they won't even know what you are talking about.

As much as Harper gets jeered by some here , he was the only politician with brains to see that it would be 80 plus years before this transition may even be feasible

[Landdownunder]

Same here 21c yesterday 23c today height of summer supposedly.

AustCanada have more normal summer in the west. A zillion miles west of me

[Stormin]

To be fair, my Jeep was struggling to warm the cab on the way to work this morning. Was still warmer than -23 though.

Every AMC/Dodge product I have owned has always had an ineffective heater, Chevy, Ford, Volvo, MB...all good.

[Guest]

Same here 21c yesterday 23c today height of summer supposedly.

AustCanada have more normal summer in the west. A zillion miles west of me

South coast of WA is almost magic year round. West coast, and as soon as you go inland about 50-100 kms or more the daily highs and lows are 10-15 deg more

[shtferbrains]

Looks like a break in the weather coming here.
Be welcome for everyone but especialy the guys with livestock.
Cows will be out sunning themselves melting the ice off thier backs.
Snow is getting deep here. Was in town last week and the streets are getting narrow with all the show banks the grader has built up.
But the days are getting noticably longer now. Look forward to that.