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    #31
    Read the post again chuck. Future tense not past tense. Jazz is trying to protect himself from future tax changes not what happened in the past.
    But I am pleased to know that you have your crystal ball calibrated in to accurately predict the past.

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      #32
      Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
      I know libertarians often don't want to pay taxes but still want to enjoy the benefits of living in a developed country, .
      When a developed country flushes $1T into a black hole with nothing to show for it and every intention to keep doing it, I am out. Society be damned. Let the woke pay for it.

      I respectfully disagree with ABF, I dont think our kids can out work socialism.
      Last edited by jazz; Jan 13, 2022, 09:40.

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        #33
        Originally posted by jazz View Post
        When a developed country flushes $1T into a black hole with nothing to show for it and every intention to keep doing it, I am out. Society be damned. Let the woke pay for it.

        I respectfully disagree with AB, I dont think our kids can out work socialism.
        Except socialism is about to collapse under it's own weight. How far they drag the rest of us innocent bystanders down with it in the process is the only question. Work ethic is about the only asset that is guaranteed to be carried through to the other side intact.

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          #34
          I've always felt Joe Lunchbox pays too much tax. Certain brackets.
          Are taxes moral if the money continually wasted? Is Ottawa today akin to George III?
          Can our resident skimming Karen understand that one?

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            #35
            You guys seem to forget that you live in one of the richest most successful countries on earth and have a standard of living that the majority of the planet would love to have.

            So here we have a small group of farmers who often complain that everyone else got a bunch of covid support whether they needed it or not and you are pissed because farmers didn't get their share?

            If you are not in favour of governments supporting their citizens during a time of crisis, how can you expect to receive "socialist" taxpayer handouts as well?

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              #36
              That doesn't make it right to throw it away.

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                #37
                Originally posted by blackpowder View Post
                I've always felt Joe Lunchbox pays too much tax. Certain brackets.
                Are taxes moral if the money continually wasted? Is Ottawa today akin to George III?
                Can our resident skimming Karen understand that one?
                I agree. And there is nothing the average joe lunchbox can do about it, except maybe move to another country.

                Impossible to get ahead paying personal tax rates. And the harder one works, the higher the rates, how is that for a demotivator.

                In spite of the massive waste, patronage, abused social programs etc. I still think we get good value for our tax dollars spent( as with all things, always room for improvement). I don't complain about the total tax bill, I am concerned about how the share is divided, and how it punishes hard work while rewarding the lazy and incompetent. And how it inevitably leads to concentration of wealth.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by blackpowder View Post
                  That doesn't make it right to throw it away.
                  Guys like chuck always use that analogy. Like covid - just imagine how much worse it could have been.

                  If we use that yard stick and compare ourselves with 3rd world countries we will always be the ugly stepsister.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by jazz View Post
                    Guys like chuck always use that analogy. Like covid - just imagine how much worse it could have been.

                    If we use that yard stick and compare ourselves with 3rd world countries we will always be the ugly stepsister.
                    You need to learn to think like a chuck/socialist. Quit thinking about how much better things could be, but instead, only compare to the worst of worst, and think of ways we can drag ourselves down to that level to even things out. With a little effort, we can easily achieve equality this way. Way easier than trying to improve anything.

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                      #40
                      In spite of the massive waste, patronage, abused social programs etc. I still think we get good value for our tax dollars spent( as with all things, always room for improvement). I don't complain about the total tax bill, I am concerned about how the share is divided, and how it punishes hard work while rewarding the lazy and incompetent. And how it inevitably leads to concentration of wealth.[/QUOTE]

                      If there wasn't the such thing called media I think the image of government wouldn't be so tarnished. We only hear about bad things, never anything positive. "Shirley" there must be something good gov't does.

                      Not defending government at all, I just don't get caught up in it or be bothered everyday only to be complaining about everything

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