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    Originally posted by agstar77 View Post
    If you are worried about the direction of the country, that fair game, but protesting vaccines is not winning argument. Not sanctimonious just a believer in science that says these vaccines are effective and safe. Even if you question the degree of effectiveness don't get stuck on the phony freedom argument. This was the same idiotic argument FFJU used. But it was only about their greedy self interest. It is not a hill you want to die on . No pun intended.
    I agree with you here for the most part but like I said before this is more than about Covid for why there is so much support for it. Do I personally agree with the official reason for it? No. Like I’ve said ad nauseum here I have personal experiences which show the vaccine works. I am done trying to change peoples minds who think otherwise. This convoy is a protest about government policy which shoot’s ourselves in the foot. People are looking for a means to protest against a government which is getting it wrong governing our domestic affairs.

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      Originally posted by agstar77 View Post
      That's why Scotland is recommending boosters because they are so ineffective. DUH!
      Because like you, they are obtuse and cant admit they were wrong. The evidence is right in front of your eyes if you would open them.

      Some day your grandkids will ask you about the great scamdemic of 2021. You arent going to have a good answer.

      Why did 2M canadians not get a second shot? Just became antivax out of the blue?
      Last edited by jazz; Jan 23, 2022, 14:25.

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        Originally posted by jazz View Post
        Because like you, they are obtuse and cant admit they were wrong. The evidence is right in front of your eyes if you would open them.

        Some day your grandkids will ask you about the great scamdemic of 2021. You arent going to have a good answer.
        Right?

        How can the leaders jump ship now? The only way to protect themselves is

        A) to stick it out to the bitter end.
        B) fess up, admit they were wrong, and accept responsibility.


        Few if any are willing to accept responsibility.

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          Originally posted by jwab
          For the non readers….

          Last line is the main take home …. Look where we are head rather than manipulating a snap shot in time.


          “ Some will look at the chart and conclude that the boosters are amazing. But first it’s important to recognize that even the boosters don’t stop transmission at all even in the short run, and then, based on the latest hospitalization data, appear to wane just like the original shots. Relatedly, you will notice a pattern: the unvaccinated and two-dose cohorts always appear worse and the one-shot and three-shot cohorts always appear better. This is where the most important part of the data set comes into play.

          You see, all cases during the first 21 days after the first shot are counted in the “unvaccinated” cohort, while the first 14 days after one receives the 3rd shot is counted among the two-dose cohort. See the definitions from Appendix 6 of the report.


          We know from numerous studies (see here and here) that people are actually the most vulnerable to COVID during the first few weeks on the upswing of the antibodies, when T cells are likely suppressed. This is why the health departments smartly count them in the unvaccinated pile. Hence, for all these months, all the cases and deaths from those made more vulnerable from the first shot – which is caused by the mass vaccination, not the unvaccinated – are counted against the unvaccinated. Over time, as the shots waned on the back end, the truth became evident. Now they are starting the cycle all over again by making the two-dose group look even worse than they are by dumping all of the cases caused by the initial take-up from the third dose into the cohort of double-vaccinated. It’s the ultimate pandemic Ponzi scheme. Just wait another two months and see what the fourth-shot group looks like relative to the triple-dosers, as the immediate vaccination causes an even greater spike in cases. In other words, you have to look in totality where we are headed rather than manipulating a snapshot of time.”
          So in other words get vaccinated. Thanks for clarifying that.

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            Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
            Unless they are crossing the US border they don't need to be vaccinated unless their employer requires it.

            The US now requires truckers to be vaccinated as well.

            Most people in Canada who are eligible are vaccinated.

            Feedlots are going to run out of feed and the "vacationing" truckers are driving to Ottawa?

            The vast majority of people have had enough of the anti vaxer nonsense. They will not support antivaxer truckers who refuse to work in a crisis.
            i asked you if you wanted to make a bet on the support from canadians ???
            -last count over 50k trucks at last count (12 trucks ,if you get news from the state broadcaster)
            -over 2.6 Million (with an M) raised and growing fast
            -freedom marches in many canadian cities yesterday

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              Originally posted by caseih View Post
              i asked you if you wanted to make a bet on the support from canadians ???
              -last count over 50k trucks at last count (12 trucks ,if you get news from the state broadcaster)
              -over 2.6 Million (with an M) raised and growing fast
              -freedom marches in many canadian cities yesterday
              I call Bullshit on the 50,000 trucks #. According to CTA there are approximately 120,0000 truckers in Canada, and your telling me 40% are driving in the protest. Logic and reason are not your forte.

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                Nobody said they are all truckers.

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                  I’ll guarantee more than 50 thousand truckers want the turd flushed.

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                    Originally posted by Wheatking View Post
                    I call Bullshit on the 50,000 trucks #. According to CTA there are approximately 120,0000 truckers in Canada, and your telling me 40% are driving in the protest. Logic and reason are not your forte.
                    Somebody shit in you porridge ?
                    Nobody said semis
                    Look at the pics on any newscast except CBC
                    Lots of vehicles , pilot trucks etc
                    But I didn’t count them just took it off a newscast
                    I have stated I am not much of a marketer , but usually not bad with the logical reasoning
                    Hope rest of your day goes better

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                      Originally posted by caseih View Post
                      Somebody shit in you porridge ?
                      Nobody said semis
                      Look at the pics on any newscast except CBC
                      Lots of vehicles , pilot trucks etc
                      But I didn’t count them just took it off a newscast
                      I have stated I am not much of a marketer , but usually not bad with the logical reasoning
                      Hope rest of your day goes better
                      The Liberals will probably blame this on Climate warming... cause if it was -40 maybe folks would stay home!!!!

                      Cheers

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                        Originally posted by Wheatking View Post
                        I call Bullshit on the 50,000 trucks #. According to CTA there are approximately 120,0000 truckers in Canada, and your telling me 40% are driving in the protest. Logic and reason are not your forte.
                        Oh , and just to prove I am just about as smart as you here is a clip from the CTA;

                        According to the CTA, about 120,000 Canadian and some 30,000 US drivers are engaged in cross-border trucking
                        If you think there are only 120k trucks in Canada, well , that’s just comical
                        Here’s another tidbit ;
                        How many trucks are there in Canada? There are 700,000 trucks across the nation, 420,000 of which are used to carry freight commercially. The remainder can be found in the hands of governments, utility companies and farmers and occasionally haul commercial goods such as machinery and equipment.

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                          It's this big already.






                          Science is the study, experimentation on, observation of and questioning of things around you. Saying I believe in science means naturally being skeptical of everything.

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