Agriville Creed

[AlbertaFarmer5]

In response to Helmsdales excellent post:
For 90% of the threads on this god forsaken hell site, nearly all the political posts on S.M., and near 100% of the air time for news casts (commercials included), all that comes to mind is:

are you not entertained.


Perhaps we should all read the following creed out loud every day before posting on or reading Agriville.

1) I am an anonymous poster on an obscure farming forum with a small handful of readers.
2) Almost without exception, all of the other posters already have their minds made up, nothing I say will make one iota of difference to them.
3) No one from government or industry of any consequence is going to read what I post today and change the world as a result.
4) Unless I am a 12 year old girl, I will not end every sentence with LOL.
5) I am going to assume that my grandmother, grandkids, boss, etc. will eventually read everything I post today, without anonymity.
6) Sometimes, someone on the internet will be wrong, they may like it that way, and the result of accepting that can be far more entertaining than trying to prove them wrong. see #2 above.
7) Difference of opinion is what makes a debate interesting.
8) The best, most constructive outcome of my contribution here today is that I learn something, to have any higher expectations than that is to guarantee disappointment.
9) If I think that my message is so vitally important that I need multiple alias's and find the need to hijack every topic with my message, then perhaps this isn't the appropriate venue for such an important message, See #1 above.
10) And the last one. It is not censorship if the staff at Home Depot keeps asking me to use the public washrooms instead of the display toilets. I won't post covid topics in a commodity marketing forum.


With apologies to those few well respected public figures here who don't hide behind screen names, and bring actual relevant information to the forum. Errol, Larry, Trent, etc.

And I will take my own advice from #2, and suggest that this post will not do one iota of good...

[AlbertaFarmer5]

1. It’s not the size of the audience, it’s the power of that one in the audience may have to make a difference.

And what if that one isn't in the audience here?
Do you think you are achieving a positive ROI, relative to the time invested? Is there no other venue that might yield better results, to justify the huge investment in time and research you put into this? I'm not minimizing your efforts, but fail to see what it is accomplishing.

[sumdumguy]

AF5- I am not sure why you come to this site but I can tell you I find it a very easy source of fresh information, not to mention the fact that There has been, in the past a feeling of community. I’ve been here since the CWB was our primary threat. Now its most irritating factor is the ones who don’t come on the site to share information but they appear and re-appear daily just to aggravate. They are likely not even farmers, all they grow is hate. That constant aggravation is getting tiring. I ask myself often, “who the h needs these lunatics poking away at us every day?”

[AlbertaFarmer5]

AF5- I am not sure why you come to this site but I can tell you I find it a very easy source of fresh information, not to mention the fact that There has been, in the past a feeling of community. I’ve been here since the CWB was our primary threat. Now its most irritating factor is the ones who don’t come on the site to share information but they appear and re-appear daily just to aggravate. They are likely not even farmers, all they grow is hate. That constant aggravation is getting tiring. I ask myself often, “who the h needs these lunatics poking away at us every day?”

I come for the rare tidbits of market relevant information. To learn about crop conditions and supply and demand in other parts of the prairies and beyond.

But because those conversations are few and far between, I find it highly amusing and educational to engage with the lunatics, as you describe them. And in response to my own rules, I'm not embarassed to let anyone I know read Chuck's posts and my responses. The reaction is always the same.

I've met and regularly converse with many of the posters.

And I might add that the two most misnamed posters on this site are sumdumguy, and shtferbrains.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

I agree, anyone with an open mind can glean a lot of useful information from any and all of the other posters.

But the converse is not true.

Close minded individuals using this forum as a soapbox to preach their gospel and try to force it upon everyone else aren't learning anything, and need to accept that they are having zero effect on anyone else.

Edit, this was in response to caseih's post, which must have been deleted as I was posting.

[blackpowder]

I'm brave enough to admit a small perverse satisfaction when inventing a new way to call Chuck ignorant.
As Larry the Cable Guy would say "Lord I apologize".

[AlbertaFarmer5]

I'm brave enough to admit a small perverse satisfaction when inventing a new way to call Chuck ignorant.
As Larry the Cable Guy would say "Lord I apologize".

And I must admit, I Laugh Out Loud everytime I read your latest creative genius. You have a real way with words. Although I doubt the recipient of those words has any clue what the intent is.

[helmsdale]

I'm not far away from going the way of Farmaholic (registered trademark) or Macdon02.

Honest to christ, there is a forum for "that which shall not be named" on this site. If you can't make the topic of discussion relevant to commodities, marketing, or even agriculture in general there are plenty of places to spew vitriol other than agriville that would at a minimum force some of the posters to up their insult game. All stripes would be welcome to shit-post at 4chan/pol until their hearts content. If that's a little too hardcore, then Reddit might be more your style.

This place used to be informative. It used to have multiple viewpoints that challenged what I thought to be a well reasoned outlook on the relevant issues of the day. This place used to be useful! With the exception of SF3's weekly discussion, this place is circling the drain.

Maybe it's not so disparate from society in a wider sense. The way things are going, Macdon02 likely was bang on the money, and the best financial bet was to go long pitchforks.

[TOM4CWB]

It is truly 'Human' to express what our 'soul' and 'heart' are feeling and believe... folks hopefully have the patience and character to respect the thoughts of those who have courage enough to share their feelings with our community!

There are 101 things [thought processes] that are involved in selling our food and agricultural produce...

More information is better... understanding the motivation of: other farmers, food processors, governments, consumers, suppliers, energy producers, environmentalists, and financial market 'makers', media,... family and or community support networks... all provide balance and perspective!

Thanks to everyone with the courage to share their thoughts with us... Agriville is truly a unique provider of information and Wisdom!!!

Blessings and salutations!

Cheers

[AlbertaFarmer5]

AF5- I am not sure why you come to this site but I can tell you I find it a very easy source of fresh information, not to mention the fact that There has been, in the past a feeling of community.

To further answer your question of why I come here, I can go back somewhat further.

I went looking for agricultural forums where I could ask lots of questions and read opinions and methods of other farmers. Because I really didn't have anyone to ask in real life. No father to ask, no close neighbors trying to do what I am doing way out here, my education and work experience were not especially relevant to agronomy or marketing, growing up we grew very little grain, and with very low inputs, marketing was very secondary for my parents. I didn't even know what I didn't know.

So I found NewAgtalk. Learned a lot about marketing. Discovered that there isn't a lot of overlap between growing corn and soybeans in the midwest vs our crops and climates, so looked for something closer to home. Joined the combine forum for equipment related questions, a very welcoming and inclusive crowd for the most part. I refuse to discuss politics and divisive issues there, not desiring to burn bridges. Read this site for a while before joining. Not worried about burning bridges here, the posters whom I regularly clash with appear to possess a grand total of zero knowledge about agriculture, so no loss there.

And as Charles Adler used to say( back when he used to be entertaining), Learn a little, laugh a lot. That's why I'm here. Most posters provide info I can learn from, And Chuck is generous enough to provide plenty of opportunities to laugh at his expense. If anyone else gets a chuckle ( no pun intended) out of my humour, that is just a bonus.

[Retired]

Getting farmers to share any info is like herding cats. They will tell you that you did it all wrong ,but dont offer any info to do it better, and the bigger they are the less they will disclose ,(none of your damm business). Us STOs discuss what our calves weighed and sold for where they got a deal on machinery , imputs ,you see we dont know it all so we are still learning
There is an old saying dont complain about food costs with your mouth full I think that thought process could be used on a lot of topics here,

[chuckChuck]

A5 An Agrisilly creed from a libertarian western separatist? LOL

A5 You are not interested in respectful considerate discussion.

I have tried that and it didn't work.

From day one you have tried to shut down posters points of views you don't agree with.

Not a very Libertarian thing to do.

[Hamloc]

To further answer your question of why I come here, I can go back somewhat further.

I went looking for agricultural forums where I could ask lots of questions and read opinions and methods of other farmers. Because I really didn't have anyone to ask in real life. No father to ask, no close neighbors trying to do what I am doing way out here, my education and work experience were not especially relevant to agronomy or marketing, growing up we grew very little grain, and with very low inputs, marketing was very secondary for my parents. I didn't even know what I didn't know.

So I found NewAgtalk. Learned a lot about marketing. Discovered that there isn't a lot of overlap between growing corn and soybeans in the midwest vs our crops and climates, so looked for something closer to home. Joined the combine forum for equipment related questions, a very welcoming and inclusive crowd for the most part. I refuse to discuss politics and divisive issues there, not desiring to burn bridges. Read this site for a while before joining. Not worried about burning bridges here, the posters whom I regularly clash with appear to possess a grand total of zero knowledge about agriculture, so no loss there.

And as Charles Adler used to say( back when he used to be entertaining), Learn a little, laugh a lot. That's why I'm here. Most posters provide info I can learn from, And Chuck is generous enough to provide plenty of opportunities to laugh at his expense. If anyone else gets a chuckle ( no pun intended) out of my humour, that is just a bonus.

Everyone gets a different take away from each person’s post. In this particular post AB5 what caught my eye was you and I share the same opinion on Charles Adler, “he used to be entertaining”, you said a mouthful there!!!

[Hamloc]

A5 An Agrisilly creed from a libertarian western separatist? LOL

A5 You are not interested in respectful considerate discussion.

I have tried that and it didn't work.

From day one you have tried to shut down posters points of views you don't agree with.

Not a very Libertarian thing to do.

Chuck2 what I don’t get is you constantly disparage the Agriville site, you constantly name call and insult the intelligence of posters on Agriville but you keep coming back, my only question is why?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

A5 An Agrisilly creed from a libertarian western separatist? LOL

A5 You are not interested in respectful considerate discussion.

I have tried that and it didn't work.

From day one you have tried to shut down posters points of views you don't agree with.

Not a very Libertarian thing to do.

Can you please provide even a single example of me trying to shut down a poster?

Quite the contrary, I am one of the only posters who willingly engages with you, whereas almost every other poster keeps demanding that you should be kicked off.

I also seem to have missed yourt attempt at respectful considerate discussion. Was that the one about diarrhea? Or the post the other day where you wished Blackjack's mother to die alone in a dirty diaper? Or the one where you wished death upon people who aren't vaccinated? Or where you celebrated people dieing from forest fires? So many examples, I'm not sure which one you are referring to?

Can you tell us what you get out of this site? What have you learned? What relationships you have developed? What people skills or debating skills you have sharpened? Whose minds you have effectively changed, or examples of where your own mind has been changed by a discussion you have had on here?

Do you often encourage your own family or acquaintances to read your posts, and the responses? Are you proud of the way you treat other posters on here, would you want your former teachers etc. to see your behaviour?