Otoole gone Wednesday?

[Braveheart]

I’d rather milk seventeen cows by hand, twice a day, in an uninsulated barn at minus forty nine.

It wasn't that bad. Although it was 12 cows by hand and the temp was only -20F. We were waiting for parts for the Surge milking machine. Dad could milk 2 cows in the time I milked one.

So the message is, you do what you have to. Don't want to listen to someone, then change the channel. Cows have to be milked.

[Hamloc]

From a conservative commenatator.

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/tasha-kheiriddin-erin-otooles-leadership-is-over

Tasha Kheiriddin: Erin O'Toole's leadership is over

Conservatives need to take a long hard look at themselves, what they stand for, who’s leading their parade, and whose company they keep
Author of the article:
Tasha Kheiriddin
Publishing date:
Jan 31, 2022 • 10 hours ago • 3 minute read •

It’s official: Conservative leader Erin O’Toole is a dead man walking. At publication time, thirty-five MPs have signed a letter asking for a caucus leadership review vote, possibly as soon as this Wednesday’s caucus meeting. According to the Globe and Mail, sources claim that they have at least 63 of 119 Conservative members who will vote O’Toole out. That is, if he doesn’t pull the trigger himself, and call a vote, or just call it quits.

After this weekend’s protests in Ottawa, one can’t say it’s a surprise. Conservative MPs Pierre Poilievre and Leslyn Lewis were working the crowd all weekend, giving coffee and sympathy to protesters and yammering about “freedom” until their vocal cords gave out. They were basically kickstarting their respective leadership campaigns, sticking the knives in O’Toole so fast it’s a wonder he hasn’t bled out on the floor.

On Sunday, the two even got an endorsement. Organizers of the protest said O’Toole should quit and be replaced by Poilievre or Lewis. “If they were smart, they would pull Erin now. Right now. Get him out of there,” said spokesman Benjamin Dichter. “We all think that Pierre resonates with the vast majority of Canadians in his opposition to Justin Trudeau.”

Talk about a poisoned chalice. Dichter is a former Conservative candidate who in 2019 spoke at the first People’s Party of Canada conference where he declared that “political Islam is rotting away at our society like syphilis.” One of the other organizers, Patrick King, has ranted about a conspiracy “to depopulate the Anglo-Saxon race because they are the ones with the strongest bloodlines” and thinks that COVID is “a man-made bioweapon that was put out to make people sick.”

Many other images from this protest are equally disturbing. Shots of people hoisting confederate flags, “Trump 2024” signs, and Canadian flags adorned with swastikas. Reports of hooligans taking food from the homeless, videos of protesters dancing on the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier and swarming the Rideau Centre.

It’s true that this narrative obscured the stories of people who joined this convoy because they lost their business, or because their kids missed months of school, or because they were just fed up and felt they “had to do something.” But before you blame the media for this “selective” portrayal (I hear the emails firing already), let me say this.

Everyone in that crowd, including Poilievre, Lewis, and O’Toole had the chance — nay, the obligation — to call out the intolerance. Not after the images hit Twitter, but immediately. On the spot.

If you stand shoulder to shoulder with people who display racist symbols, and don’t tell them right then and there to leave your protest or take them down, you are not standing up for freedom. You are standing with hate. If you stand with people who verbally abuse hotel clerks and inflict 24-7 mayhem on an entire city, you are not standing up for freedom. You will be tarred with their hatred and become complicit in their agenda.

In supporting the protest, the Tories are making the same Faustian bargain the Republican party made with Angry America and its champion, Donald Trump. The Republicans thought they could tap into working class anxiety and channel it at the ballot box. Too late, they realized they had tapped into far more, including xenophobia, misogyny and white supremacy. And if they disagree with Trump, they are now vilified and excommunicated.

Conservatives need to take a long hard look at themselves, what they stand for, who’s leading their parade, and whose company they keep. Because if they don’t, they will wake up one day and they won’t recognize the face in the mirror.

But Canadians will. And guess what? It’s the Liberals who will be free — to govern the country for the next 100 years.

I emailed Tasha last night about how I disagreed with her. I would say she used to be a conservative commentator, not so much anymore!

[jazz]

The CPC is sensing Trudeau doesnt survive this even from his own caucus. I mean hiding all the way in Tofino when there are military bases and his own lake cottage 30m from Ottawa.

He sent a bunch of 2nd rate amateur's into the houses yesterday. Even Freakland the deputy didnt speak for him.

Be an election inside a year and we dont want dough boy OToole fcking that up again.

I emailed Tasha last night about how I disagreed with her. I would say she used to be a conservative commentator, not so much anymore!

Should have told her Canada wont exist in 5.

[Sheepwheat]

It wasn't that bad. Although it was 12 cows by hand and the temp was only -20F. We were waiting for parts for the Surge milking machine. Dad could milk 2 cows in the time I milked one.

So the message is, you do what you have to. Don't want to listen to someone, then change the channel. Cows have to be milked.

Yeah I was about half time of my dad too. And actually, noting warmer than a barn full of cows and leaning up against old Betsy.

[foragefarmer]

Extremist? Harper was an extremist? Oh my aching sides.

Harper conformed very early once he won the CPPC leadership. It was a full time job of his PMO to keep the extreme Right Wingnuts backbenchers under muzzle.

Besides, any candidate you hitch your wagon to will never form a government in Canada.

With you half dozen of Anti this and Anti that's, (eg Woman's choice, Gay, LGBTQ, Science, Vaxxes, CBC, etc etc).

Your views are share by such a small portion of Canadians.

Let's get a CPC candidate who has a fighting chance to defeat Justin.

[jazz]

With you half dozen of Anti this and Anti that's, (eg Woman's choice, Gay, LGBTQ, Science, Vaxxes, CBC, etc etc).

Well then you might as well just keep justin. We will split MB at the RRV when the time comes.

So women have a choice, gay people have a choice but I dont have any choice.

[Sheepwheat]

Harper conformed very early once he won the CPPC leadership. It was a full time job of his PMO to keep the extreme Right Wingnuts backbenchers under muzzle.

Besides, any candidate you hitch your wagon to will never form a government in Canada.

With you half dozen of Anti this and Anti that's, (eg Woman's choice, Gay, LGBTQ, Science, Vaxxes, CBC, etc etc).

Your views are share by such a small portion of Canadians.

Let's get a CPC candidate who has a fighting chance to defeat Justin.

Harper removed gay marriage and banished abortion, right?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Plain and simple

It's obvious trudeau isn't capable of running the country !

But at least he has proven himself imminently capable of running away from the country when it is in most need of a competent leader

[fjlip]

There was a nazi flag waving plant. 7000 dollars has been raised by the convoy and its supporters to find out who it was, and oust them. That’s right, they put a bounty on the idiot.

Lewis and Pierre both condemned the idiots there. Why do you lie and say they didn’t. Have you been watching CBC again, chuck?

Ride that horse CC, you will fall on your head.

Plant, same with Confederate flag guy. Booed and left the crowd. Face covered in a FULL mask, the only protestors Masked? Come on guys, you can't be such SUCKERS!

[chuckChuck]

But Patrick King is still there. Is he a plant? LOL

Pretty heard to deny his white supremacist holocaust denying views when they are on social media.

But go ahead and try.

[chuckChuck]

But at least he has proven himself imminently capable of running away from the country when it is in most need of a competent leader

So do you think the trucker convoy and the organizers would be a good replacement for Trudeau?

They are not leaving untill the government resigns based on their memorandum.

They forgot to organize competent speakers, media releases and press conferences so they could effectively get their message across. Along with food, toilets and other essentials.

Do you think think they can be "house' trained to not urinate and crap wherever they want?

So for next election who will carry the winning libertarian separatist message to Ottawa?

[furrowtickler]

Still barking up trees continuously eh

[15444]

A lot won't agree with this, but this was the final nail in the coffin for the Conservatives. MacKay won't come back and the PC portion of the party has pretty much given up hope for the Cons. The SoCons have left for the PPC. The party might as well rename themselves Reform again, because it has gone full circle. I don't think the Cons can redirect themselves enough to even win a minority and any more steering to the right will put them in 3rd place next time around.

But go ahead and tell me how the next person won't be just another angry, bitter Conservative.

[Taiga]

Honestly, that is not what the PPC is about (regarding your soCon comment). The PPC party is very much a free choice, libertarian, small government party. Not soCon at all.

[Sheepwheat]

A lot won't agree with this, but this was the final nail in the coffin for the Conservatives. MacKay won't come back and the PC portion of the party has pretty much given up hope for the Cons. The SoCons have left for the PPC. The party might as well rename themselves Reform again, because it has gone full circle. I don't think the Cons can redirect themselves enough to even win a minority and any more steering to the right will put them in 3rd place next time around.

But go ahead and tell me how the next person won't be just another angry, bitter Conservative.

Erin is not a bitter conservative. He’s not a conservative at all. That’s the problem.

Tell me Leslyn Lewis wouldn’t kick trudeaus arse to the curb. Smart, a woman, black.

Conservatives do best, when they are unabashedly conservatives. They suck, when they are another liberal party.