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    #46
    Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
    Was just visiting with a financial advisor about this .
    Canada risks losing billions in US and other foreign investments if Freeland goes too far .
    The ChiComs will be the buyers, Freeloader has no problems to worry about.(except for her cocaine habit)

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      #47
      Singh might be able to bootlick in the HoC, but the NDP has no representation in the upper chamber because they have never been in power thank god.

      But lots of Quebec rep in there and from what I heard about the Oct crisis, PET went way too far back then too. The Bloc have already rejected the EMA, and the CPC and 6 of 10 provinces. That has to have some weight.

      I think this was a scare tactic to see if he could disperse the protest before it got to the Senate.

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        #48
        Originally posted by shtferbrains View Post
        Freeland scares me a lot more than Treadau.
        Justin never accomplished anything before he was elected and hard to see anything much since. Mostly just made announcements and set goals that are pie in the sky.
        Ms Freeland might actualy make some things happen.
        trudeau=Bush
        Freeland=Cheney

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          #49
          Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
          All this speculation from the CPC supporters who can't stick with a leader for more than one election? LOL
          So let me guess , you would stand by our current joke a of a PM would you? Through thick and thin , etc. ?He is the laughing stock of the free world now , even more than before. He has made a complete joke of his party , himself , and the country he is supposedly representing . That convoy of people in Ottawa , and at other places in this country ( some dispersed ) is the direct result of a FAILED leader and his sneaky bastard style politics , just thought I would let you in on that.

          It must be something to be a Trudeau supporter , however you are entitled to your opinion , just as much as the rest of us on here.

          Most people wouldn't have to be around justin for too long before they would realize how completely pathetic he is. In case you missed it , since 2015 .

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            #50
            Originally posted by beaverdam View Post
            The ChiComs will be the buyers, Freeloader has no problems to worry about.(except for her cocaine habit)
            Seeeee, I'm not the only one thinking FreeLand is dipping,

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              #51
              Originally posted by beaverdam View Post
              Seeeee, I'm not the only one thinking FreeLand is dipping,
              Booster shot. Her veins are crawling with spike protien

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                #52
                I'm going to make a bold prediction about the current Emergency Measures Act.

                The only winners are going to be the lawyers.

                The biggest losers are going to be the law abiding tax paying citizens.

                As these actions, charges, arrests, and measures get drug through the already over burdened legal system over the years and probably decades to come. Consider this, we just a few weeks ago got closure on a lawsuit over BSE going back to events in 2003. Almost 2 decades.

                How many bonafide criminals will have their court dates pushed back so far that they eventually walk free, how many jail cells will be occupied that genuine criminals get released back onto the street, how many lawyers on both sides will retire on the profits they make, and how many tax dollars will go into defending the actions?

                As the saying goes, the process is the punishment.

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
                  I'm going to make a bold prediction about the current Emergency Measures Act..
                  Maybe the new mantra will be use EMA to save our legal system. Worked for the health care system.

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                    #54
                    Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
                    I'm going to make a bold prediction about the current Emergency Measures Act.

                    The only winners are going to be the lawyers.

                    The biggest losers are going to be the law abiding tax paying citizens.

                    As these actions, charges, arrests, and measures get drug through the already over burdened legal system over the years and probably decades to come. Consider this, we just a few weeks ago got closure on a lawsuit over BSE going back to events in 2003. Almost 2 decades.

                    How many bonafide criminals will have their court dates pushed back so far that they eventually walk free, how many jail cells will be occupied that genuine criminals get released back onto the street, how many lawyers on both sides will retire on the profits they make, and how many tax dollars will go into defending the actions?

                    As the saying goes, the process is the punishment.
                    So now your concerned about tax payers money being wasted.

                    Where was your concern about taxpayer's money being lost during the illegal border blockades of Surrey, Coutts, Emerson and Windsor.

                    Billions of dollars lost on goods moving north to south. Goods that generate taxes in numerous ways.

                    All the tax payers dollars wasted on law enforcement at every illegal blockade and rally, never a comment from you on that.

                    The citizen of Ottawa and businesses are launching a Class Action Lawsuit against the leaders of the Illegal Blocked and those that made donations towards it. Are you stepping up to help the accused that you speak so highly of.

                    Now you speak up about tax payers money being wasted, while all along you been simply a Keyboard Freedom Fighter Enabler for the group that is about to charged deservingly.

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                      #55
                      I have a question for all of you opposed to Trudeau implementing the EMA.

                      I had some time so did some research into Canadian laws and found this condensation of the act and I really want to know which of these 6 points you disagree with and think is overreach by the government. Is this law to prevent attacks on our country and democracy wrong?

                      -It creates a new terrorism offence that criminalizes knowingly advocating or promoting “terrorism offences in general” while aware of the possibility that someone else “may” commit such an offence;
                      -It allows the preventive arrest and detention of a person if it is “likely” to prevent a terrorist activity that a “peace officer” reasonably believes “may” be carried out;
                      -It creates the new concept of “terrorist propaganda” and allows a judge to order the deletion of such material from the internet;
                      -It gives the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) the power to take measures to reduce “threats to the security of Canada”, even if doing so would violate the Charter of Rights and Freedoms (the “Charter”) or other Canadian law;
                      -It allows government institutions to share information with each other about “activities that undermine the security of Canada”; and
                      -It codifies the Minister’s ability to put Canadians on a “no-fly list”.
                      Last edited by dmlfarmer; Feb 18, 2022, 22:05.

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by foragefarmer View Post
                        So now your concerned about tax payers money being wasted.

                        Where was your concern about taxpayer's money being lost during the illegal border blockades of Surrey, Coutts, Emerson and Windsor.

                        Billions of dollars lost on goods moving north to south. Goods that generate taxes in numerous ways.

                        All the tax payers dollars wasted on law enforcement at every illegal blockade and rally, never a comment from you on that.

                        The citizen of Ottawa and businesses are launching a Class Action Lawsuit against the leaders of the Illegal Blocked and those that made donations towards it. Are you stepping up to help the accused that you speak so highly of.

                        Now you speak up about tax payers money being wasted, while all along you been simply a Keyboard Freedom Fighter Enabler for the group that is about to charged deservingly.
                        When you are suppose to haul a dec contract for canola and you can't haul it till January you must lose $100,000 dolars a day with that truck sitting there in the yard not working that day?
                        Or do you just go haul some wheat to another location?

                        Why didnt we see any pictures from the next crossing down the road.
                        I know a guy hauling US.
                        They just went to the next crossing. They didnt like it but who is so stupid to believe all that trade is lost?
                        Can you think or do you just parrot what you hear on CBC.

                        If the other crossings slowed it down it was because they were told to.
                        Any goverment that wanted to make it work would put extra people on.
                        But did they?

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                          All this speculation from the CPC supporters who can't stick with a leader for more than one election? LOL
                          When you have the socons reading from the GOOD BOOK of the past because they cant look at reaily,and the PCs looking at the future and what could be , so mabey if they would park their bible at the door just mabey they could get a decent leader.
                          As for the swastika seen in the crowd and some want to paint everyone with same brush, lets look at here in edmonton a police officer is charged with assault ( by assert the white wash crew ) causing bodily harm to a prisoner shall we condemn all officers ???

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by dmlfarmer View Post
                            I have a question for all of you opposed to Trudeau implementing the EMA.

                            I had some time so did some research into Canadian laws and found this condensation of the act and I really want to know which of these 6 points you disagree with and think is overreach by the government. Is this law to prevent attacks on our country and democracy wrong?

                            -It creates a new terrorism offence that criminalizes knowingly advocating or promoting “terrorism offences in general” while aware of the possibility that someone else “may” commit such an offence;
                            -It allows the preventive arrest and detention of a person if it is “likely” to prevent a terrorist activity that a “peace officer” reasonably believes “may” be carried out;
                            -It creates the new concept of “terrorist propaganda” and allows a judge to order the deletion of such material from the internet;
                            -It gives the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) the power to take measures to reduce “threats to the security of Canada”, even if doing so would violate the Charter of Rights and Freedoms (the “Charter”) or other Canadian law;
                            -It allows government institutions to share information with each other about “activities that undermine the security of Canada”; and
                            -It codifies the Minister’s ability to put Canadians on a “no-fly list”.
                            Chris Barber, a key organizer in the Freedom Convoy is facing 4 criminal charges: counselling to commit mischief, counselling to disobey a court order, counselling to obstruct police and mischief the interferes with the use and enjoyment of property. Source CBC.

                            Looking at those charges and comparing them to your six condensed points, do you still believe enacting the EMA was justified? I sure as hell don’t!

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                              #59
                              It seems if they would have had a mediator engage both sides , this would have been over long ago.

                              The part I struggle with is Ottawa had a week of national news reports with people along the highways supporting the truckers and all Ottawa would have had to do is either:

                              A. Cordone off a location for them to go to avoid having that many trucks downtown

                              B. Watson could have called the PM and say it might be wise to state a plan for removing the mandates within a set time period before they got to Winnipeg.

                              c. While this mess was in Ottawa , the real balance of power lies with the NDP and they could have shown some leadership as a mediator to get everyone talking prior to what ended up happening.


                              At the end of the day the underlying issues of this nation's divisiveness isn't solved. Which will result in more of this.

                              It is a shame and an embarrassment on the international stage.

                              While Pierre's use of the War measures Act has been kind to him in the history books, I think the opposite will be true for the spoiled brat Justin.

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by bucket View Post
                                It seems if they would have had a mediator engage both sides , this would have been over long ago.

                                The part I struggle with is Ottawa had a week of national news reports with people along the highways supporting the truckers and all Ottawa would have had to do is either:

                                A. Cordone off a location for them to go to avoid having that many trucks downtown

                                B. Watson could have called the PM and say it might be wise to state a plan for removing the mandates within a set time period before they got to Winnipeg.

                                c. While this mess was in Ottawa , the real balance of power lies with the NDP and they could have shown some leadership as a mediator to get everyone talking prior to what ended up happening.


                                At the end of the day the underlying issues of this nation's divisiveness isn't solved. Which will result in more of this.

                                It is a shame and an embarrassment on the international stage.

                                While Pierre's use of the War measures Act has been kind to him in the history books, I think the opposite will be true for the spoiled brat Justin.
                                Mediate with who? With the truckers from BC who started the convoy, whoever that was? With Lich who first started a fundraising campaign for truckers? With Barber/Sky/King or the dozens of others who jumped into and escalated this from an anti vax protest to ending all mandates to dissolving parliament and getting rid of Trudeau? And what is to be mediated on by the federal government? Provincial imposed mandates? Provincial responsibility of health care? The MOU that Canada Unity drew up as the basis for ending this? The position of most of the protestors that they will not leave until all their demands are met? Who is the spokesman that everyone in Ottawa as well as Coutts/Emerson/Sarnia/ and in cities across Canada would consider to be the leader and who would accept their mediation? There simply is no leadership to mediate with.

                                Interesting to note that the provincial leaders who imposed mandates did not meet with protestors either. Kenney did not meet or mediate with Coutts Protestors, Ford did not meet or negotiate with Sarnia protestors, Stefanson did not meet with Emerson protestors. Hell you go back and you will see that Harper did not meet with the idle no more protestors either. He did agree to meet with FN chiefs but that happened after the protests ended, weeks after the protest started, and none of the chielfs were involved in the actual protests

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