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[Hamloc]

Hamloc

Even if Trudeau had dropped the cross border mandate, that would not have opened the border as the US has exactly the same cross border mandate restricitons

And more than 10% or 3.5 million Canadians refuse to get vaccinated so just because lots of people lined the roadways cheering does not mean they support the Ottawa situation today or the weeks of border blockades. I don't like the mandates either, but I also respect laws and democracy which those still in protest do not. There are ways to protest legally and effectively. Simply using leaderless mobs to disrupt life and the economy is neither.

Was the EMA overreach? That will be debated for years. But what is clear now is police did not have the resources before to end the border blockdades, yet within hours of the EMA being implemented the borders were open.

I note not a single person on this forum would stand up and point out which of the 6 points I made yesterday in the existing legislation was government overreach. To me that says that none of you law and order claimants believe the law to be overreach. You are just mad that Trudeau has used the law instead of going in with massive milatary force and ending it immediately as would happen in a true facist regime.

As many posters have said on here repeated, this protest is not about mandates. Good folks like your neighbors are simply being used and sadly do not realize it yet.

Yes you are correct that the U.S. also implemented a border vaccine mandate 7 days later, the fact remain Trudeau’s imposition of the mandate was the reason the protest began.

When a government stops listening to the people, the people eventually react. The border blockades are a sign in my opinion government went to far. Were they wrong? Certainly. Were they justified? That is difficult for me to answer. As a law abiding citizen I can’t support breaking the law but there are so many things Justin Trudeau has done and said that I disagree with that a part of me supported the spirit of the demonstrations.

All the border blockades except for the one in Manitoba were gone before the EMA was enacted, all that really was left was the protest in Ottawa, the EMA wasn’t justified to end the blockade in one city with an obviously incompetent police force.

As for the 6 points, personally I think the EMA period is overreach but the second one where a peace officer can arrest someone he thinks might carry out a terrorist activity, certainly overreach allows arrest and detention on an opinion no fact required. The fourth one appears to give CSIS the ability to do anything they want, appears to be overreach. Fact remains I am not a lawyer, the EMA imposition is a wild over reaction to a situation created by incompetent governance and inflammatory leadership by our Prime Minister!

Dml on thing you forgot to mention was the DMA gave the banks the ability to freeze peoples bank accounts. According to the CBC 76 people’s bank accounts have been frozen so far. The information about donors was obtained illegally by an illegal hack of GiveSendGo. Your ok with this? Still can’t believe any intelligent person would defend the actions of Justin Trudeau!

I do think the initial reaction was about mandates. The convoy was successful in waking up many provincial governments and changing their outlook. Premier Legault, who I am not a fan of, certainly has softened his approach to the unvaccinated. He can do what Justin Trudeau cannot and that is read what the electorate is thinking.