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    #11
    Originally posted by jazz View Post
    Dml do you know what the NEP was designed to do?
    Let me help you out. The same thing the carbon tax is doing.

    It’s a wealth transfer scheme plain and simple. Even Manitoba sucks on the fruits of O&G.

    All that manufacturing, hydro, aerospace and maritime EI programs down east are paid for by AB.

    You aren’t outraged because you are not educated about it.

    Do you know what heavy differentials are?
    90% of the carbon tax is being to returned. I got an $800 credit. I paid $220 on my gas bill and nothing on my solar electricity.

    If you want to talk about a wealth transfer, the price of oil has more than doubled along with oil company profits. The transfer of wealth from consumers to oil companies makes the carbon tax look like a drop in the bucket.

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      #12
      Originally posted by jwab
      December 25th eh, no wonder this egomaniac authoritarian has a messiah complex.

      ps FU(K OFF dml
      Thanks for the comment jab. Your comment added so much to the discussion.

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        #13
        Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
        90% of the carbon tax is being to returned. I got an $800 credit. I paid $220 on my gas bill and nothing on my solar electricity.

        If you want to talk about a wealth transfer, the price of oil has more than doubled along with oil company profits. The transfer of wealth from consumers to oil companies makes the carbon tax look like a drop in the bucket.
        Then I suggest you teach your disciples to buy shares in oil companies and share the wealth.

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          #14
          I wrote a big long reply but don’t think it’s worth the energy it may take to deal with potential replies. Maybe I’ll feel more energetic later LOL

          More succinctly put, yeah AB has its issues but the doctor is confusing those issues with what’s going on right now. Right now is not a provincial leader **** up, it’s not about O&G and it’s not even about Trudeau disliking Alberta or East vs West.

          Right now it is Trudeau. It did not start out as his fault, but I fully believe where we are today is his fault.

          And prior to this I was not against Trudeau. I wasn’t his most avid supporter but feeling he is at fault is not a result of a massive chip on my shoulder fed to me by my grandparents while they babysat me.

          A month ago it could maybe be said a lot of the people involved were carting around baggage about O&G and AB being a less favoured child. Today, that’s an ignorant perspective to take, it’s grown past that.

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            #15
            Better late than never.

            It might be considered prudent to hear what grandparents have say, as well.
            Last edited by burnt; Feb 21, 2022, 11:02.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Blaithin View Post
              it’s grown past that.
              Or maybe, its just been exposed for what it was all along, just more people see.

              What the NEP did to AB and the equalization fraud and now the carbon tax grab is akin to child abuse. You dont forget that and some marxist doctor who has had a govt paycheck his whole like doesnt get to comment.

              Kenney is so far out of the loop. He was 3 months behind the sentiment on covid and now he is behind the sentiment on separation. His people are telling him its time to fight and he just cant get it. Does he need a Otoole type resurrection to wake up?

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                #17
                Originally posted by jazz View Post
                Or maybe, its just been exposed for what it was all along, just more people see.

                What the NEP did to AB and the equalization fraud and now the carbon tax grab is akin to child abuse. You dont forget that and some marxist doctor who has had a govt paycheck his whole like doesnt get to comment.

                Kenney is so far out of the loop. He was 3 months behind the sentiment on covid and now he is behind the sentiment on separation. His people are telling him its time to fight and he just cant get it. Does he need a Otoole type resurrection to wake up?
                So you think the whole convoy and all blockades are just about Alberta?

                I feel safe saying most people aren’t involved because of NEP and equalization for Alberta. Particularly all the people who aren’t even from Alberta… Such as the great number from Quebec.

                Why anyone is viewing this as Alberta vs Ottawa I just don’t get. It’s much bigger than Alberta. Get rid of some conceit or get heads out of asses or something. Saying this is about Alberta and separation is like the people saying it’s all racists. If this is showing anything it’s that there’s a large portion of the East that feels very similarly about many things as the West does. People need to stop using it as fuel for separation and realize this is actually showing agreement throughout the country. Probably much to Trudeau’s dislike after repeatedly trying to hammer in a wedge.

                And Burnt, it is possible to listen to grandparents and parents without becoming a dedicated follower of their views and opinions. We are complex beings with the ability to not carry generational grudges.
                Last edited by Blaithin; Feb 21, 2022, 11:26.

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                  #18
                  Convoy has nothing to do with Alberta. It didn’t even start in Alberta.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Blaithin View Post
                    So you think the whole convoy and all blockades are just about Alberta?
                    Blaithin, it wasnt about any single place at first. it was a response to govt over reach in many areas, not just covid.

                    But now its falling back to a second front, the only one we have left. Yes lots of people down east dont like whats being done, but I dont see them flipping seats in Toronto or Montreal yet.

                    By the time we get to that kind of rage, the country will be a smoking cinder.

                    No its time for AB to pull back from this abomination. I highly suspect Quebec is doing the same thing.
                    Last edited by jazz; Feb 21, 2022, 11:37.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by jazz View Post
                      Blaithin, it wasnt about any single place at first. it was a response to govt over reach in many areas, not just covid.

                      But now its falling back to a second front, the only one we have left. Yes lots of people down east dont like whats being done, but I dont see them flipping seats in Toronto or Montreal yet.

                      By the time we get to that kind of rage, the country will be a smoking cinder.

                      No its time for AB to pull back from this abomination. I highly suspect Quebec is doing the same thing.
                      You aren’t looking very hard if you aren’t seeing protests in other places. Quebec protests are rivalling those in Alberta and BC. Also interestingly so far I’ve only heard of Quebec Liberal MPs calling out Trudeau, none of the Western ones.

                      Stop trying to cut the west off, it weakens us. It wasn’t about one place and it still isn’t about one place.

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