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    #11
    https://angusreid.org/trudeau-convoy-trucker-protest-vaccine-mandates-covid-19/

    February 14, 2022 – If the goal of the Freedom Convoy was to capture the attention of millions of people in Canada and around the globe – mission accomplished.

    If, however, the goal was to build support for their demands to end pandemic-related restrictions – it has backfired utterly.

    New public opinion data from the non-profit Angus Reid Institute shows after more than two weeks of unrest, Canadians are now more likely to oppose measures sought by protesters.

    Overall, more than two-in-five now say Canadians say the protests have made them more inclined to support ongoing restrictions related to masking indoors (44%) and vaccination requirements to cross the Canada-U.S. border (44%).

    As the country rolls into another week of uncertainty, nearly three-quarters of Canadians (72%) say the time has come for protesters to “go home, they have made their point.”

    As to how the situation should be resolved – most feel the time for talking is done. Nearly seventy per cent either think local police need to step in and send people home (45%) or that the military should be summoned (23%). One quarter (26%) say it’s up to politicians to negotiate a dénouement.

    However, those same politicians, including the prime minister and the leader of Canada’s official opposition, are roundly criticized for harming, not helping events. Two-thirds (65%) say Prime Minister Justin Trudeau comments and actions have worsened the situation, while two-in-five (42%) say this of Candice Bergen, leader of the official opposition. The Ottawa police and Ontario Provincial Police also garner considerable criticism, with more Canadians – and Ontarians – saying they have worsened rather than helped to resolve the situation.

    Blockade backlash

    What is perhaps even more notable within this discussion is the overall impact that the protests have had on public opinion regarding pandemic-related mandates and restrictions. By nearly a two-to-one margin, Canadians say that they are now more likely to support both federal vaccine requirements at the Canada-U.S. border and indoor mask requirements in their communities. Another one-in-three Canadians have not been moved at all:

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      #12
      Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post
      What adjectives will history reserve for Canada today? Do you think Trudeau ever opens his eyes and thinks about that?
      "shocking descent into totalitarianism"?

      "stunned into submission by a fascist dictator"(who displayed a fetish for blackface and swastikas)?

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        #13
        Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post
        What adjectives will history reserve for Canada today? Do you think Trudeau ever opens his eyes and thinks about that?
        From hansard

        """"""Right Hon. Justin Trudeau (Prime Minister, Lib.):
        Mr. Speaker, the invocation of the Emergencies Act is extremely serious and we have taken it extremely seriously. It followed specific steps that were taken and this will continue in the House. It followed consultation with the premiers. It gives tools, in a proportionate and responsible way, to the officers of jurisdiction to be able to end these illegal blockades.
        This will be a moment that will be studied in the history books. What people will see is that the Conservatives never stopped playing personal partisan politics.""""""

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          #14
          Chuck this thread is about the senate vote and whether or not the senators will be given all the info for as to why they should pass the EMA or not

          Take your wanna be post on whether the trucker convoy won or lost the popularity contest some where else .

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            #15
            Originally posted by bucket View Post
            From hansard

            """"""Right Hon. Justin Trudeau (Prime Minister, Lib.):
            Mr. Speaker, the invocation of the Emergencies Act is extremely serious and we have taken it extremely seriously. It followed specific steps that were taken and this will continue in the House. It followed consultation with the premiers. It gives tools, in a proportionate and responsible way, to the officers of jurisdiction to be able to end these illegal blockades.
            This will be a moment that will be studied in the history books. What people will see is that the Conservatives never stopped playing personal partisan politics.""""""
            I would say the Liberals and NDP never stopped personal partisan politics. Many have made it obvious that while they oppose the mandates or want a plan to end them and disapprove of the EA, they vote for them simply because their party does.

            The Conservatives are just being the Conservatives.

            For this reason alone I hope the Senate puts seriousness thought into a veto. If the HOC is voting, not in what they feel are the best interest of their constituents, but in the best interest of their party amidst obvious political games, then the Senate should be obligated to think outside of the pressure put on by party politics.
            Last edited by Blaithin; Feb 23, 2022, 08:12.

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              #16
              What I see in the senate is a bunch of rotting old boomers. I know how that vote is going to go. Hope I am wrong.

              But the HoC has to debate and revote in 5 days again. Make Trudeau and Singh stand out there every week and defend this.

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                #17
                Originally posted by jazz View Post
                What I see in the senate is a bunch of rotting old boomers. I know how that vote is going to go. Hope I am wrong.

                But the HoC has to debate and revote in 5 days again. Make Trudeau and Singh stand out there every week and defend this.
                It is an emergency that allows politicians who created the emergency to take the week off??????

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by bucket View Post
                  It is an emergency that allows politicians who created the emergency to take the week off??????
                  People dont realize what power the EMA gives a PM. He can close parliament, the senate, the SCC, suspend elections, investigate anyone and anything, make new legislation on a whim.

                  I suspect he suspends parliament before the revote.

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                    #19
                    Politicians carefully calculate every decision and probably the polls showed that a very limited short EA would be supported by a large majority of voters.

                    The CPC on the other hand is playing mainly to their base to deal with the bleed of votes to the farther right.

                    Its hard to argue against the EA when like Kenney, you asked the feds for more help to deal with the blockade at Coutts.

                    And in vote rich Ontario Doug Ford declared his own provincial state of emergency and was keen to crack down on the blockades and occupation in Ottawa.

                    The biggest political losers are some of the CPC leadership who looked like they supported illegal blockades and hurt their law and order image.

                    Standing with protestors who waved confederate flags and Nazi symbols is not a good look for a party that struggles to keep the lid on it's fringe elements.
                    Last edited by chuckChuck; Feb 23, 2022, 08:55.

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                      #20
                      I don't have a problem with the CPC criticizing the EA. However it looks disingenuous when they supported illegal blockades and did nothing to stop them. You cannot have it both ways. Either you support the rule of law or you don't.

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