Senate vote

[bucket]

Bucket this week was pre-scheduled to be an In Constituency week, the MP's already gave up their Family Day weekend to have the vote on the EMA.

The last weekend was 7am to 12pm each day in lockup because the police were busy breaking the law outside the West Block on Parliament Hill.

PM Trudeau and DPM Freeland are the fascists who fail to instead be reasonable and do their jobs.

Phuck that noise!

If it's an emergency, it deserves attention. They should be voting on an opposition motion to stop this. And rewriting the parameters to use this act.

[WiltonRanch]

There was already a survey done on this. More than 50% had reservations about the convoys prolonged protest, byt as many as 55% sympathized with the cause. 65% want the same mandates lifted.

And now that they see the govt weaponizing the EMA against people, the convoy support has likely skyrocketed. The majority of the donors were from Quebec and Ontario.

Agstarr and chuck like to overlay vaxx rates over every issue like out idiot PM. At least 40% of people vaxxed would have never taken it if not for coercive measures from our govt and employers.

And most worrysome for for our progressive partys, in the 18-34 age range the support for the convoy is as high as 60%.

Young angry men. Don’t underestimate them. Old people are saddled with too much wisdom and fear.

For my detractors this statement has a double meaning. I didn’t want you to get confused.

[TOM4CWB]

So you are saying more than 50% are supporting the blockades? Average would be 50%.

Obviously Aggri you missed the memo...

Voting on other peoples constitutional Charter of Rights and Freedoms is not ethical, justified, nor reasonable.

Lets have a vote on Agriville to force Agstar77 to sell his farm and give the proceeds to the Maverick Party!

If over 50% of us voted in favour... would that be a legally binding contract forcing you Agastar77 to sell your farm and give the proceeds to the Maverick Party?

Well you proclaiming that some poll determine our Charter Rights and Freedoms are not something you can vote away...from me...

[sumdumguy]

The damage that will be done to Canada will be immeasurable. The world is aghast at Canada envoking the “War Measures Act” and freezing bank accounts of people who have not done anything criminal. Capital, immigration and new businesses would not come near a country like that with a ten-foot pole. I just heard of a good customer that is looking at a farm in Texas and putting his land up for sale. Doesn’t want to live in a communist country. That’s the perception that the world has of us now. A prime minister so arrogant that he wouldn’t discuss alternate options, but hurls lies and abuses at civilians, then expunges their rights and freedoms that were embrazened in the constitution. You left-wing lunatics can say what you want but the damage was not created by a peaceful protest. The world has taken notice, according to relatives in Australia, they are horrified for us.

[Blaithin]

I am not against legal protests and freedom of expression. When the line is crossed I will condemn it no matter what average citizen does it.

You seem to be condemning the entire thing, even the premise of having the opinion.

When is the line crossed?

There have been blockades and protests that occupied before, with much more damage done. Why is this one so condemnable? So dangerous as to require the EA? That participants and supporters a like risk getting their bank accounts frozen?

In previous situations, the PM actually joined in and supported them! Yet this time they are actively against him so it’s a totally different ball game?

If you can’t understand why people have growing anger over the double standard then just say you can’t understand it. Don’t join in with the flimsy excuse that all of us that feel this way are white supremacists or criminals and acting illegally therefore apparently have no entitlement to an opinion or being heard. I can assure you, most of us are not any of those things.

[jazz]

Any survey should be followed up with the question, do you get your news from CBC and CTV?

If the majority actually searched out news in alternative sources, those numbers would sway very differently.

But gladly, those two channels lost lots of viewers in the past month. My parent turn it off now.

When is the line crossed?.

BLM and Antifa crossed the line in the first couple days and those protests went on for 3 months. They were even bussing protestors into Canada.

[jazz]

I just heard of a good customer that is looking at a farm in Texas and putting his land up for sale. D.

Sum, how is he going to immigrate? Have to have some sort of VISA to stay in the US. E2 or EB5, or if you cna get an employer to hire you.

All those truckers are busy getting visas and criminal waivers and will be gone to the US in mere days.

Canada is so much poorer.

[WiltonRanch]

You seem to be condemning the entire thing, even the premise of having the opinion.

When is the line crossed?

There have been blockades and protests that occupied before, with much more damage done. Why is this one so condemnable? So dangerous as to require the EA? That participants and supporters a like risk getting their bank accounts frozen?

In previous situations, the PM actually joined in and supported them! Yet this time they are actively against him so it’s a totally different ball game?

If you can’t understand why people have growing anger over the double standard then just say you can’t understand it. Don’t join in with the flimsy excuse that all of us that feel this way are white supremacists or criminals and acting illegally therefore apparently have no entitlement to an opinion or being heard. I can assure you, most of us are not any of those things.

Exactly. Just the typical fear and smear when nothing is left to say which is logical.

[blackpowder]

There are those on both sides of this issue for whom any form of consensus is impossible.

Perhaps the silent majority, like myself, finds the public debate itself more cup emptying than filling.
I suspect the "average" agree with protesting but not blockades.

I will borrow this next thought from a podcast I watched.
Among the plethora of tragedies of late, the failure of the opposition needs adding to the list.
No greater opportunity has been handed them in years than the closure of parliament for debate on the Act. What a photo op they could have had assembling on the steps of a closed parliament as one demanding its opening for debate. Few tragedies compare to the mockery made of parliament these last two years. Culminating essentially in passage of a declaration of "war" without debate.
The exaggerated dangers pale in comparison to attending British Parliament in 1940.
All parties have failed us. All politicians should feel shame.

I could go on for pages with examples of what I see as the slope we have been accelerating down for some time.
Future generations will have to adapt to the unknown consequences.
For now, I need a break.
As Reagan said "freedom is only one generation from extinction".

[LWeber]

There are those on both sides of this issue for whom any form of consensus is impossible.

Perhaps the silent majority, like myself, finds the public debate itself more cup emptying than filling.
I suspect the "average" agree with protesting but not blockades.

I will borrow this next thought from a podcast I watched.
Among the plethora of tragedies of late, the failure of the opposition needs adding to the list.
No greater opportunity has been handed them in years than the closure of parliament for debate on the Act. What a photo op they could have had assembling on the steps of a closed parliament as one demanding its opening for debate. Few tragedies compare to the mockery made of parliament these last two years. Culminating essentially in passage of a declaration of "war" without debate.
The exaggerated dangers pale in comparison to attending British Parliament in 1940.
All parties have failed us. All politicians should feel shame.

I could go on for pages with examples of what I see as the slope we have been accelerating down for some time.
Future generations will have to adapt to the unknown consequences.
For now, I need a break.
As Reagan said "freedom is only one generation from extinction".

Not directed at you BP - but it fits...

You should be all sleeping with your fn light on.

The irony is that the same people who thought that the CROW was guaranteed in perpetuity and that the CWB was paid a premium for all wheat sales are the same people who believe this is about a vaccine.

The CROW cost farmers billions from the time Jean Luc had a cabinet agreement to end it and again billions when Charlie wanted to end it in 1993....billions... some of you here protested against it - some for it. The left were wrong. 13 billion (Pepin) to 7 billion (Mayer) to 1.3 billion (Goodale) because of SWP, NDPs and the NFU. Who apologized to farmers for being wrong?

Former CWB employees now openly admit that: "a large percentage" of wheat was sold underneath the US asking price to "clear the system". Because of SWP, NDPs and the NFU, changes were rushed in 2012 and were shitty for farmers; however, who apologized to farmers for being wrong the other 25 years??

This is not about a vaccine. Get your heads out of your ass.

And if you firmly believe that this time you are right and the right wing conspiracy theory is so off base - why are you hiding?