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    #11
    Putin may be a thug but Russia wanted closer ties with the west for a long time and what did they get? NATO trying to fck with them, media making up fake stories about them while ignoring china killing Muslims.

    If Ukraine joins nato there would be missles in there the next day.

    It’s stupid Cold War thinking that got us here. Always has to be a fake enemy while the real one like china is given a pass.

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      #12
      Originally posted by jazz View Post
      Putin may be a thug but Russia wanted closer ties with the west for a long time and what did they get? NATO trying to fck with them, media making up fake stories about them while ignoring china killing Muslims.

      If Ukraine joins nato there would be missles in there the next day.

      It’s stupid Cold War thinking that got us here. Always has to be a fake enemy while the real one like china is given a pass.
      And how much Chinese junk have we all bought? They would be backwoods without a market for their products. We have enabled them with our greed. We will pay a steep price for all the cheap goods.

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        #13
        Anyone who has bought or traditionally purchased from Ukraine will be making other arrangements.

        Incuding nirogen products.

        Also have to consider Russia unlikely to destroy anything they see as future benefit to them. They are already in the Black Sea ports.

        Expect Putin plans to just roll right over any scattered resistance as he has an invasion plan not a skirmish.

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          #14
          Originally posted by shtferbrains View Post
          Anyone who has bought or traditionally purchased from Ukraine will be making other arrangements.
          The world cannot survive without russian energy and food exports. No country can make up that difference.

          Gezus, Canada spent almost 1T dollars and never increased our capacity for any of our exports. What a clown world.

          Looks like Putin is giving Klaus a little message too.

          Canada and US actually import russian oil. Let that sink in for a moment.
          Last edited by jazz; Feb 24, 2022, 08:19.

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            #15
            Originally posted by agstar77 View Post
            And how much Chinese junk have we all bought? They would be backwoods without a market for their products. We have enabled them with our greed. We will pay a steep price for all the cheap goods.
            That fault lays on the ones who outsourced manufacturing. Apple , Walmart , Amazon ...... not the regular Abe Joe

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              #16
              didn't a recent , umm, president kinda predict all this ?

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                #17
                Seems strange the wheat markets in the states are limit up but our line companies are barely moving prices. Oh I know why they want us to sell, they store then they sell and profit hugely.
                Guess this sounds like old times.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
                  That fault lays on the ones who outsourced manufacturing. Apple , Walmart , Amazon ...... not the regular Abe Joe
                  The regular joe is too gullible to realize they have been conned.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by agstar77 View Post
                    The regular joe is too gullible to realize they have been conned.
                    Yup they were warned several years ago about Putin , and Klaus Schwab but no one listened ... was all just a conspiracy theory .
                    Last edited by furrowtickler; Feb 24, 2022, 09:18.

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                      #20
                      Crazy start for grain prices this morning with limits ups or close to.. guessing this took out a pile of targets. Doubtful if there is much left to sell till a person gets to cleaning out bin bottoms

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