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    If we are headed for systemic long-term deflation, can anyone explain to me how it plays out.

    Every level of government in virtually every country is holding unsustainable levels of debt. Along with most consumers in most countries, and with businesses of all types massively in debt.
    If the natural deflationary economic forces are permitted to play out as they should, the only possible outcome I can see is complete economic collapse. Apocalyptic crash and burn. Which won't be good for the careers of politicians and bankers, probably won't even be good for their survival.

    The only way they know of to avoid that outcome is more of the same policies that got us here in the first place, massive money printing, easy credit, artificially low interest rates, deficit spending, more consumer debt, more public and private debt. All of which are inflationary.
    Personally, I would bet on politicians and Central bankers pushing the easy button every time. They'll talk the talk, but when push comes to shove they cannot possibly afford to walk the walk.
    With the entire world in the same boat, it is mutually assured destruction if one of the big Domino's falls. Under that scenario, it seems we can't allow one country to either fail, or do the right thing and get off the inflationary treadmill.
    And add to that wars and geopolitics and energy shortages and labor shortages and demographics, and chronic malinvestment in all the wrong sectors and industries, and it looks like inflation is here to stay for a long time to come.
    Or can anyone come up with a deflationary scenario that isn't apocalyptic?
    Last edited by AlbertaFarmer5; Jul 30, 2023, 14:03.

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      The ponzi of a debt based monetary system in which dollars only come into existence as debt must continue to grow exponentially. However, exponential growth on a finite earth is unsustainable.

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        Commodities have never been cheaper when compared against the S&P. Either the S&P is overvalued or commodities are cheap.

        Last edited by biglentil; Aug 1, 2023, 13:34.

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          Watch for the same for Canadas fake economy


          Fitch downgrades US' long-term ratings from 'AAA' to 'AA+' - Ratings agency expects 'fiscal deterioration' of US 'over the next three years'

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            Originally posted by biglentil View Post
            Commodities have never been cheaper when compared against the S&P. Either the S&P is overvalued or commodities are cheap.

            Wheat is at fire sale prices when you see what's happening around the world these days. Soooo Russia is going to give Africa free wheat ---- cause their loaded with cash ????

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              A rising cpi is the result of two main factors the inflation of the money supply and velocity. The fed just recorded the highest print of velocity ever of 10.9%. Strong velocity can be an indicator of a strong economy, but thats not the case. With the resent Fitch credit downgrade of the US and in anticipation of the Brics summit August 23rd dollars are being dumped. This may be the eye of the hyperinflationary hurricane, or more correctly a hyper CPI hurricane as a deluge of USD comes home to roost. No one wants to be caught holding a hot potato.

              Last edited by biglentil; Aug 3, 2023, 08:57.

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                China CPI index just released has turned negative (deflation). China imports down 12% year over year. China exports down 14% over past year. Bearish global commodities including overbought oil (IMO). Industrial metals under pressure.

                Canada’s true CPI index is also negative (deflation). Costco slashing prices up to 25% reported (deflation). U.S. home mortgages heading under water. More bank failures ahead. Financial fallout intensifies.

                This is not inflationary folks . . . .

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                  US govt printed $1.7T in the last 12 months. I am betting another similar amount will be forthcoming into the 2024 election.

                  Until that stops, inflation is still in the cards, in fact you will see another spike coming up in the next 6 months. Oil and other commodities are already telling us whats coming.

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                    Unfortunately tractors don't run on unicorn pudding.

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                      Canadas adjusted GDP per capita, no growth in 5 years;

                      Get ready for your medicine marxist voters, its here. Our national GDP per capita is now on par with Alabama. Only Sask and Ab are keeping it being on par with Puerto Rico.

                      What a mess. Canada will never recover.

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                      Last edited by jazz; Sep 1, 2023, 11:31.

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