Pre seed burn off with animals?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

What the heck man. You said it would be impossible on large spread out acreages, and I agreed. And I stated my farm is small enough i think I could make it work.

You brought up farm size, I countered, and now you are there being snide again.

I think someone is just upset that we dared to discuss agricultural topics. Some people just need scandals and controversy.
I can't see any value whatsoever in his contributions to this thread.

[Sheepwheat]

Since we seem to farm in similar climates, where water is rarely the limiting factor, and cooler climates where we are unable to seat really early, The annual weeds really aren't a big economic problem in a competitive crop. If you have that perennial weeds under control, and you seed barley or oats later in the spring with close row spacing, it will compete the annual weeds quite successfully most years.
Different story on a dry year for a dryer climate or with very low nutrient levels.
I don't remember, are you doing full tillage or no till?

If the goal is to get more grazing for the cheap, I would instead look at what other species you could see the year before that might provide early season grazing and out compete the weeds. But some of those options aren't very cost-effective.

I’m no till. Die hard no till. I like what it has done for my soil! I’ve used fall rye for grazing. It’s so competitive in spring it needs no herbicide most of the time. Too bad it’s not a more mainstream and marketable crop.

For me I think the main goal is weed control as another week grazing for the sheep isn’t a whole lot of advantage.

[WiltonRanch]

When we were tillage and doing fallow it was a common practice to drop straw at harvest and run the cows through it in the fall and again in the spring. These fields would be later fallowed for the season. Quack was a problem then as post or preharvest glyphosate wasn’t a thing so you took advantage of that free grass in the spring lol. I have an aversion to sending cows out on stubble in the spring. At least in the tillage days the ground would get so hard if moisture conditions were just so. I’ve noticed since we’ve been no till a number of years this isn’t as much a problem anymore. One thing I find where we have a lot of residue it is amazing how a herd of cows on a quarter make it passable with the drill.

[Blaithin]

Forage just struggles to differentiate between bouncing around ideas to try on your own farm vs something everyone should be doing. His biggest apparent hurdle in regenerative discussions. If someone else is thinking about trying it, obviously we think everyone else should be doing it.

As soon as his mind zeros in on trying to comprehend it on his own farm his brain misfires and he defaults to “Nope nope nope. Impossible”

[agstar77]

Time to bring back the Buffalo.

[Guest]

The way Trudeau is running the country we are well on our way

[Old Cowzilla]

The most successful livestock guys in this area tend to ignore the straight grain guys across the fence and vice versa. Meanwhile both groups shake there heads at what us mixed farm guys are doing some days Fencing , seeding, prepping hay and pasture fields all seems to happen at once around here.

[WiltonRanch]

Rough times are ahead. Soaring costs and availability concerns will drop ag production worldwide. Here in North America we have leaders who continue to forge ahead their green agenda to the peril of economic stability of our nations. This Ukraine invasion and prospects for Chinese invasion of Taiwan will prove the folly of putting green dreams in front national security.

[Landdownunder]

Is this quack grass?

Scientific name, Cynodon dactylon?

We call it cooch grass.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Is this quack grass?

Scientific name, Cynodon dactylon?

We call it cooch grass.

SCIENTIFIC NAME:
Elymus repens (L.) Gould subsp. repens (ITIS)

SYNONYM:
Agropyron firmum J. Presl, Agropyron repens (L.) P. Beauv., Elytrigia repens (L.) Desv. ex Nevski, Triticum firmum (J. Presl) Link, Triticum repens L. (GRIN)

COMMON NAME:
Quackgrass, medusa's head, Quackgrass rye, Quackgrass grass

[WiltonRanch]

Is this quack grass?

Scientific name, Cynodon dactylon?

We call it cooch grass.

Must be. Glyphosate saved a lot fuel and topsoil in the battle against quack. Heavy black soil and quack is a nightmare. Story was years back a good chunk of ground south of us was abandoned virtually until deep tillage cultivators came along because of quack.

[Guest]

Thinkin of all you livestock guys and gals today
Was loading a super bee and it is just *** brutal here . -25 and a ***** of a wind
Hopefully not too many calving or lambing yet
Whatever you are making it isn’t nearly enough !
Thanks for the meat!!!