China, is enabling Putin…

[foragefarmer]

Don't kid yourself for a minute, the USA and other countries are getting weapons into Ukraine.

Do you think their going to put it on Social media platforms for you to read, or press releases for the networks.

What about mercenaries, you don't think their not in Ukraine. Plenty of money coming in from numerous countries to Ukraine for hiring mercenaries.

The Russians will never win this war, their soldiers are no match for the Ukrainians who have been training for this for eight years now. Not to mention the Ukrainians are fighting for their country, where as the Russians don't know what they are fighting for.

Yes the West made a huge mistake by not putting thousands of soldiers and artillery on the borders of neighboring countries before Putin's invasion, unfortunately that ship has sailed.


Just awful to see hospitals, homes, and building being bomb to shit and two million refugees. When you see babies and children crying it's hard to take. But, Putin found out in a hurry his army can't win this war and are no match for the Ukrainian army, so bombing is his only hope for a victory which he will never get.

I wish the West would enforce a no fly zone over Ukraine. Maybe it will come.


As usual great post DML

[dmlfarmer]

Wow. Very plausible. Give them enough rope like Pakistan or how many other African nations. Still though aside from pipelines for energy, any overland route for grains from major commodity producing areas is not practical vs Black Sea shipping. Across the urals in Asian Russia how productive are those areas closer to China? Not huge producers nor in highly productive areas there is lots of arable ground for soybeans.
Here’s a website which explains what I am talking about. https://ipad.fas.usda.gov/rssiws/al/rs_cropprod.aspx

Wilton, Take a look at any map for the "belt and road" initiative that China has been working on for years. It goes right through the center of Ukraine! I have no doubt China has been preparing for this very scenario for years.

This is the same model many BTO farm operations use to grow bigger right here at home. Cozy up to a young farmer, or one ready to retire, or someone who is facing difficulties and offer to help them out. Encourage them, lend them equipment, help them out in farm operations, give them hope and quietly extend them help that they can never repay, and then when a disaster happens, who is first in line to pick up the pieces, the BTO. Same thought process is used for farm expansion and that China is using to win over Russia, that China has used for thousands of years. While western society focuses on the present, China is focused on the future.

[furrowtickler]

Western societies have been been focused on the woke climate activism , how much big Pharma can make off covid and what toilets to use while Russia planning this invasion and China looking farther out than everyone ... you all right .

[dmlfarmer]

Western societies have been been focused on the woke climate activism , how much big Pharma can make off covid and what toilets to use while Russia planning this invasion and China looking farther out than everyone ... you all right .

The focus of western societies is ME. The focus in China is WE. There is a huge difference and WE is much more powerful than the MEs. Most posters here are more concerned with getting rid of Trudeau than looking at the global picture. Just look at the number of posts on this site still focused on bad Trudeau or the freedom convoy when real freedoms for 50 million people has disappeared. Majority of western society no longer cares about others unless there is a benefit to themselves. And heaven forbid if there could be a personal cost to policy that helps the majority - thats grounds for overthrowing the government. ie: High oil prices are great for oil companies, Alberta, and if you are a shareholder in oil stocks, otherwise the sentiment is fuel costs are killing this country and it must be Trudeaus fault!

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Wilton, Take a look at any map for the "belt and road" initiative that China has been working on for years. It goes right through the center of Ukraine! I have no doubt China has been preparing for this very scenario for years.

This is the same model many BTO farm operations use to grow bigger right here at home. Cozy up to a young farmer, or one ready to retire, or someone who is facing difficulties and offer to help them out. Encourage them, lend them equipment, help them out in farm operations, give them hope and quietly extend them help that they can never repay, and then when a disaster happens, who is first in line to pick up the pieces, the BTO. Same thought process is used for farm expansion and that China is using to win over Russia, that China has used for thousands of years. While western society focuses on the present, China is focused on the future.

Have you read the book Confessions of an Economic Hitman?
It describes exactly what you are referring to.
And when I read about the legacy being left in the wake of the belt and road initiative in Africa already, it matches exactly.

[WiltonRanch]

Have you read the book Confessions of an Economic Hitman?
It describes exactly what you are referring to.
And when I read about the legacy being left in the wake of the belt and road initiative in Africa already, it matches exactly.

I still see the fly in the ointment is India. They don’t like China cause China is a pain in the ass. China is trying to steal their water by damming off the rivers in the mountains. India was cozy with Russia because they could afford their shitty jets and arms, and Russia hates China. Now this turn of events kind of freezes India out. The west has kind of allied with Pakistan but they’ve sold their soul to China. Naturally alliance structures will change somewhat. Still I wonder about the other elephant here which is an old lion waiting to reassert it’s pre ww1 empire. Turkey.

[TOM4CWB]

Have you read the book Confessions of an Economic Hitman?
It describes exactly what you are referring to.
And when I read about the legacy being left in the wake of the belt and road initiative in Africa already, it matches exactly.

The genuine heart aches… are being felt globally… in Russia, North/South /America, Africa, Australia… Philippines…. What reasonable person would not be broken by this catastrophic Ukrainian situation…

On Bloomberg just watched Li at press conference;

China is ‘aggrieved’… about Ukraine…, but sanctions are just going to hurt the world…

[sawfly1]

What has happened Tom 4 cwb. ?
Can I come to your maga hat burning party.
I will join in on that one.
I was wondering how you would navigate this one .
Got to be a lot of Ukrainians around there.
What is the plan? Dance around this one and then support Trump in 3 years?
Talk about backing the wrong horse.

[TOM4CWB]

What has happened Tom 4 cwb. ?
Can I come to your maga hat burning party.
I will join in on that one.
I was wondering how you would navigate this one .
Got to be a lot of Ukrainians around there.
What is the plan? Dance around this one and then support Trump in 3 years?
Talk about backing the wrong horse.

Your compassion for humanity is difficult to understand.

I am not an American… have never voted in the U.S. did not nominate President Trump, and will be very surprised if Trump is the Presidential Nominee in 2024.

Your shaded view of my world is puzzling…

Live and Learn… Bitter folks are difficult to understand…

Hope seeding goes well,

Blessings and Prayers for Ukraine

[sawfly1]

I have lots of compassion , not usually a problem for leftys. I just was wondering how your yeah Trump posts are working out for you these days.

Glad to hear, you have come around and can see what Trump was trying to accomplish, holding off Ukraine support to pretend to get dirt on a political opponent. Dropping sanctions , trying to
Break NATO apart. Working for Putin.

Welcome aboard the antifa boat.
But just a heads up, that thing about being paid by Soros , it's all BS, never seen a nickel myself. The cheap bugger.

If you really are coming over, be warned there are no perks on this side , except a clean conscience .

[LEP]

I have lots of compassion , not usually a problem for leftys. I just was wondering how your yeah Trump posts are working out for you these days.

Glad to hear, you have come around and can see what Trump was trying to accomplish, holding off Ukraine support to pretend to get dirt on a political opponent. Dropping sanctions , trying to
Break NATO apart. Working for Putin.

Welcome aboard the antifa boat.
But just a heads up, that thing about being paid by Soros , it's all BS, never seen a nickel myself. The cheap bugger.

If you really are coming over, be warned there are no perks on this side , except a clean conscience .

Another lefty with smug arrogance. Clean conscience. I never liked Trump, but he was right about NATO. Lots of freeloaders around the room including Canada. The first time there is a problem they call Uncle Sam. He was letting them know that if NATO is going to work don't spend 2/3 or 3/4 of what was agreed to and then call for help at the first sign of trouble.

I am vaccinated but didn't have a problem with the convoy. All of us had had enough of mandates. Those anticonvoy protesters holding signs saying "Kill the antivaxxers" sure showedd compassion.

[shtferbrains]

Another lefty with smug arrogance. Clean conscience. I never liked Trump, but he was right about NATO. Lots of freeloaders around the room including Canada. The first time there is a problem they call Uncle Sam. He was letting them know that if NATO is going to work don't spend 2/3 or 3/4 of what was agreed to and then call for help at the first sign of trouble.

I am vaccinated but didn't have a problem with the convoy. All of us had had enough of mandates. Those anticonvoy protesters holding signs saying "Kill the antivaxxers" sure showedd compassion.

The left is much more virtuous than the rest of us.

I actualy remeber a couple that were.