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    #41
    Originally posted by dmlfarmer View Post
    Wilton, Take a look at any map for the "belt and road" initiative that China has been working on for years. It goes right through the center of Ukraine! I have no doubt China has been preparing for this very scenario for years.

    This is the same model many BTO farm operations use to grow bigger right here at home. Cozy up to a young farmer, or one ready to retire, or someone who is facing difficulties and offer to help them out. Encourage them, lend them equipment, help them out in farm operations, give them hope and quietly extend them help that they can never repay, and then when a disaster happens, who is first in line to pick up the pieces, the BTO. Same thought process is used for farm expansion and that China is using to win over Russia, that China has used for thousands of years. While western society focuses on the present, China is focused on the future.
    Have you read the book Confessions of an Economic Hitman?
    It describes exactly what you are referring to.
    And when I read about the legacy being left in the wake of the belt and road initiative in Africa already, it matches exactly.

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      #42
      Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
      Have you read the book Confessions of an Economic Hitman?
      It describes exactly what you are referring to.
      And when I read about the legacy being left in the wake of the belt and road initiative in Africa already, it matches exactly.
      I still see the fly in the ointment is India. They don’t like China cause China is a pain in the ass. China is trying to steal their water by damming off the rivers in the mountains. India was cozy with Russia because they could afford their shitty jets and arms, and Russia hates China. Now this turn of events kind of freezes India out. The west has kind of allied with Pakistan but they’ve sold their soul to China. Naturally alliance structures will change somewhat. Still I wonder about the other elephant here which is an old lion waiting to reassert it’s pre ww1 empire. Turkey.

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        #43
        Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
        Have you read the book Confessions of an Economic Hitman?
        It describes exactly what you are referring to.
        And when I read about the legacy being left in the wake of the belt and road initiative in Africa already, it matches exactly.
        The genuine heart aches… are being felt globally… in Russia, North/South /America, Africa, Australia… Philippines…. What reasonable person would not be broken by this catastrophic Ukrainian situation…

        On Bloomberg just watched Li at press conference;

        China is ‘aggrieved’… about Ukraine…, but sanctions are just going to hurt the world…

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          #44
          What has happened Tom 4 cwb. ?
          Can I come to your maga hat burning party.
          I will join in on that one.
          I was wondering how you would navigate this one .
          Got to be a lot of Ukrainians around there.
          What is the plan? Dance around this one and then support Trump in 3 years?
          Talk about backing the wrong horse.

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            #45
            Originally posted by sawfly1 View Post
            What has happened Tom 4 cwb. ?
            Can I come to your maga hat burning party.
            I will join in on that one.
            I was wondering how you would navigate this one .
            Got to be a lot of Ukrainians around there.
            What is the plan? Dance around this one and then support Trump in 3 years?
            Talk about backing the wrong horse.
            Your compassion for humanity is difficult to understand.

            I am not an American… have never voted in the U.S. did not nominate President Trump, and will be very surprised if Trump is the Presidential Nominee in 2024.

            Your shaded view of my world is puzzling…

            Live and Learn… Bitter folks are difficult to understand…

            Hope seeding goes well,

            Blessings and Prayers for Ukraine

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              #46
              I have lots of compassion , not usually a problem for leftys. I just was wondering how your yeah Trump posts are working out for you these days.

              Glad to hear, you have come around and can see what Trump was trying to accomplish, holding off Ukraine support to pretend to get dirt on a political opponent. Dropping sanctions , trying to
              Break NATO apart. Working for Putin.

              Welcome aboard the antifa boat.
              But just a heads up, that thing about being paid by Soros , it's all BS, never seen a nickel myself. The cheap bugger.

              If you really are coming over, be warned there are no perks on this side , except a clean conscience .

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                #47
                Originally posted by sawfly1 View Post
                I have lots of compassion , not usually a problem for leftys. I just was wondering how your yeah Trump posts are working out for you these days.

                Glad to hear, you have come around and can see what Trump was trying to accomplish, holding off Ukraine support to pretend to get dirt on a political opponent. Dropping sanctions , trying to
                Break NATO apart. Working for Putin.

                Welcome aboard the antifa boat.
                But just a heads up, that thing about being paid by Soros , it's all BS, never seen a nickel myself. The cheap bugger.

                If you really are coming over, be warned there are no perks on this side , except a clean conscience .
                Another lefty with smug arrogance. Clean conscience. I never liked Trump, but he was right about NATO. Lots of freeloaders around the room including Canada. The first time there is a problem they call Uncle Sam. He was letting them know that if NATO is going to work don't spend 2/3 or 3/4 of what was agreed to and then call for help at the first sign of trouble.

                I am vaccinated but didn't have a problem with the convoy. All of us had had enough of mandates. Those anticonvoy protesters holding signs saying "Kill the antivaxxers" sure showedd compassion.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by LEP View Post
                  Another lefty with smug arrogance. Clean conscience. I never liked Trump, but he was right about NATO. Lots of freeloaders around the room including Canada. The first time there is a problem they call Uncle Sam. He was letting them know that if NATO is going to work don't spend 2/3 or 3/4 of what was agreed to and then call for help at the first sign of trouble.

                  I am vaccinated but didn't have a problem with the convoy. All of us had had enough of mandates. Those anticonvoy protesters holding signs saying "Kill the antivaxxers" sure showedd compassion.
                  The left is much more virtuous than the rest of us.

                  I actualy remeber a couple that were.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by shtferbrains View Post
                    The left is much more virtuous than the rest of us.

                    I actualy remeber a couple that were.
                    Putin using Cluster Bombs in Ukraine today…
                    Bombing air fields in western Ukraine…

                    Dairy production is at risk in Ukraine…

                    Ukraine production is about the same as Iowa… was mostly used domestically…. Supply chains broken…

                    What the farmers do with their milk cows now… dump the milk down the drain???

                    So much devastation and carnage… hog production… eggs and chicken…

                    Putin is annihilation of a food production system for a nation of 44 million people…

                    Evil Putin being rewarded ;with deception and lies…being his survival language.

                    Biden being responsible for the Budapest Memorandum… British really not much better… Ukraine trusted western civilization to protect them… now being systematically annihilated.

                    If they , Ukraine, had their nukes… or at least an iron shield like Israel… they might have had a chance… now Ukrainian civilization is being wiped out…

                    Now no one does anything of significance to stop Russia /Putin/China Bullies who make the Hell’s Angel’s look like saints.

                    God have mercy on us who let Russia and China get away with this extermination of the Ukrainian nation .

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                      #50
                      Think the us and nato are prepping to start airlifting supplies into Kiev. They’re already training for it.

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