Dockage & Shrinkage

[beaverdam]

Yup that happens, lots of guys out there like that .
But it does happen the other way , absolutely no doubt as well

We are meticulous in sampling at harvest, so we know are samples are representative.

Had an experience last fall delivering durum. Our samples graded #2 by a couple graincos, and took a contract with one of them. Started hauling 2 months later and suddenly some loads were #3. I was not happy, and was having a lot of anxiety as the discounts would be painful. After the contract was filled, the overall avg. did make #2, so no discounts, but I ended up loosing a lot of sleep. Glad I didn't over react at the time, because I was very concerned I was being played,,, just to get my product in the door.
You know, easy grade the samples,,, tough grade the unloads.

[LWeber]

Had someone delivering last week,.

Thank you for sharing ...and being you ...

[sumdumguy]

An issue our neighbour has right now, made a deal with a local elevator to sell his #2 durum at $20, April delivery. The contract came and it said #3 Durum Jan/Feb delivery. He phoned back and told them that the deal was wrong on the paper. The buyer said, “ Just sign it and send it in, we’ll make the changes when we get it here”. The producer said, “ No, change it and send me the correct one.” Consequently, still waiting and calling.

[blackpowder]

We haul a lot of wheat in right off combine. You can see variance through
a field.

[TOM4CWB]

We haul a lot of wheat in right off combine. You can see variance through
a field.

Processors always have totally different rules than licensed primary elevators RE: CGC. There is actual shrinkage loss if they pay on clean seed after processing/cleaning... not like doing a dockage test at a licensed CGC elevator.

Big difference for process elevators. Find out up front what their terms are... unlikely they use Primary Elevator CGC standards.

If it is a seed cleaning plant. not registered with the CGC... then you could be selling to a Grain Dealer off the cleaner... 101 ways it can happen then!

[TOM4CWB]

Processors always have totally different rules than licensed primary elevators RE: CGC. There is actual shrinkage loss if they pay on clean seed after processing/cleaning... not like doing a dockage test at a licensed CGC elevator.

Big difference for process elevators. Find out up front what their terms are... unlikely they use Primary Elevator CGC standards.

If it is a seed cleaning plant. not registered with the CGC... then you could be selling to a Grain Dealer off the cleaner... 101 ways it can happen then!

If off the cleaner... then who got the screenings... can you get a sample of them? That can tell a big story. Flax can be very difficult to clean... canola is often wicked to get out...

[wmoebis]

Processors always have totally different rules than licensed primary elevators RE: CGC. There is actual shrinkage loss if they pay on clean seed after processing/cleaning... not like doing a dockage test at a licensed CGC elevator.

Big difference for process elevators. Find out up front what their terms are... unlikely they use Primary Elevator CGC standards.

If it is a seed cleaning plant. not registered with the CGC... then you could be selling to a Grain Dealer off the cleaner... 101 ways it can happen then!

This is one thing brought up at CHC review meetings. Should Processors and Seed dealers be licensed as primary elevators? That would give farmers protection under the Act.

[TOM4CWB]

This is one thing brought up at CHC review meetings. Should Processors and Seed dealers be licensed as primary elevators? That would give farmers protection under the Act.

Interesting idea... That would mean all farmers buying planting seed would need to be licensed and bonded by the CGC to buy planting seed from seed growers... if planting seed were under the authority of The Canada Grain Act instead of the Canada Seeds Act.

It is up to farmers to decide who to sell their 'grain" to... not the CGC.

Cheers

[wmoebis]

Interesting idea... That would mean all farmers buying planting seed would need to be licensed and bonded by the CGC to buy planting seed from seed growers... if planting seed were under the authority of The Canada Grain Act instead of the Canada Seeds Act.

It is up to farmers to decide who to sell their 'grain" to... not the CGC.

Cheers

Not all farmers to buy seeds to plant. Your right it is up to farmers to decide who to sell their grain to and to agree to the terms of that sale including dockage assessment. The problem as in this case who is the police when they don't agree on how it it done or the results?