CP rail strike or lockout

[bucket]

Would this not be disruptive to trade, will there not be yelling and shouting on the picket lines.

I think the emergency measures act should be enacted again.

sarcasm.

I hope you guys get the point both sides are to blame.

Contract end dates are as obvious as Christmas.

The MP responsible should have been getting updates to the negotiations long before now. He/she failed as well to avoid this.

It costs money to drive to work everyday, workers are not stupid . Management probably got their raises as required.

I am on the fence but , both sides are to blame.

No reason for a disruption like this. At this time.

Although if they do slow down I hope someone fixes a few crossings.

[TASFarms]

Would this not be disruptive to trade, will there not be yelling and shouting on the picket lines.

I think the emergency measures act should be enacted again.

sarcasm.

I hope you guys get the point both sides are to blame.

Contract end dates are as obvious as Christmas.

The MP responsible should have been getting updates to the negotiations long before now. He/she failed as well to avoid this.

It costs money to drive to work everyday, workers are not stupid . Management probably got their raises as required.

I am on the fence but , both sides are to blame.

No reason for a disruption like this. At this time.

Although if they do slow down I hope someone fixes a few crossings.

Last I checked Cp was only picking up 55% of ordered cars. That was since the track was put back together after the bc floods.

[bucket]

I do feel for guys that require feed to be brought in, whether they should have had it place or not isn't relevant right now, there are alot of animals to feed and they were day to day a few weeks ago.


It just highlights how little a government does to monitor situations, while they don't need to be kept up on day to day issue in "normal " times, when contracts are due or there is a feed shortage like in Alberta feedlots, the government should be monitoring it very closely to avoid these disruptions.

Why does it always have to be reactive with back to work legislation, why can no one ever be proactive is finding solutions.

Doesn't matter which stripe of government it is.

AS an example and a little off topic....the current government watched a truckers convoy from Vancouver to Ottawa and did SFA until they had to react with EMA. The convoy went through all the major cities to get there and they still couldn't make a case for avoiding downtown.

Reactive is how it turned out,
Proactive they could have talked in any major city and kept them out of downtown Ottawa.

Back on topic. I don't keep tabs on when the railways contracts are due, farm groups , industry reps and politicians have that at their fingertips and long before it becomes a strike/lockout they should have been screaming to the regulator.

TASFarms makes a point about the railway performance, they have someone monitoring performance and when it drops , no one does shit to improve or fix it. The monitoring then becomes useless. Where it should be used to improve the system.

Who knows maybe the strike / lockout allows them to make those improvements or fixes, but judging by the BC floods and the adequate time of no trains , it didn't seem like they took advantage of that to fix.

[15444]

I just hope those brave workers aren't forced back to work against their will by an evil and tyrannical government with a hidden globalist agenda to control people.

If it takes 6 months of trains being shut down to get what they require, then they need to do that. They are fighting for freedom. CN workers should join in a show of solidarity. No rail traffic for 6 months. Make Canadian Rail Great Again.

[Blaithin]

Last I checked Cp was only picking up 55% of ordered cars. That was since the track was put back together after the bc floods.

No, CP has been delivering for sure 80, if not 90% if their cars consistently.

CN has been slowwwlllyyy inching their way up to 70. They were living at 40-50 for a long time.

In grain cars anyway. Maybe CP has been dropping the ball on other kinds.

[blackpowder]

I don't know but wonder if loop tracks aren't favored? The one I deal with is staying current.

[FarmJunkie]

CN had definitely be shitty in our area. Give a shit factor isn’t there without competition

[wmoebis]

I don't know but wonder if loop tracks aren't favored? The one I deal with is staying current.

Is it the Railways that tell the grain companies where they are sending cars to or the grain companies telling the RR where to spot them. Seems RR always get blamed but not so sure they are always the ones. Seems to be worse now that there is no CWB to blame first.

[bucket]

Is it the Railways that tell the grain companies where they are sending cars to or the grain companies telling the RR where to spot them. Seems RR always get blamed but not so sure they are always the ones. Seems to be worse now that there is no CWB to blame first.

There never seems to be a clear cut answer.

But if a grainco contracts grain in february for september movement but the cars are not allocated until August or September , it seems there needs to be an update in logistics....

[blackpowder]

The facility here had options to purchase land for its site 20 years before the board died. That tells you. 4 years after, they built. They bring in wheat up to 200km away. Rail has always held trump.
But if that's fairly compensated for and fairly passed along in basis, that's good business for all. Once on a super b it doesn't matter 100 or 200km.
Maximizing rail efficiency critical.
Building efficient facilities also.
I cringe when I have to visit those concrete epitaph elevators. Outdated before they were built.

[bobofthenorth]

I am on the fence but , both sides are to blame. .

^^^^^ This ^^^^^

The whole "collective bargaining" thing is a massive sham but particularly so in the case of the railroads. Both sides know from the beginning that its going to binding arbitration or a back to work order. So where's the incentive for either side to bargain in good faith ever? Both sides just posture until the strike/lockout happens and then they can finally start to be serious.

I don't know how we get out of a mess like this but there is zero chance collective bargaining will ever work for the railroads.

[Old Cowzilla]

I tease the guys at the loop terminal that's it's just a matter of time when they close the last grain car lid they grab there lunch boxes and take the train to the west coast themselves. I don't think i am too far off.

[jazz]

Maybe Trudeau can take a moment to halt his Ukraine fake virtue signaling tour and evoke the EMA again and freeze the teamsters back accounts.

Bets he lets this fester for a month.

Potash has doubled in price and now it sits on the sidings. Canada is such a fcking joke. Biggest supercycle in our history and we are going to watch it go by.

[BTO780]

The farmers will be blamed for this as usual, we get blamed for everything. Too hot, too cold, too many avalanches, etc we get the shaft at the end. We are the only industry in the world where we take what we are dished. These guys should be forced back to work.

[sawfly1]

Ex hired man in oil crash ,laid off tried the rail road ,90,000$ a year . He went back to oil , a year ago, more money liked the Job better. Then moved up
Again. Week in week out northern Alberta . Must be really depressing driveing a train at 25 mph from north battleford to llyod.