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    #13
    We need more farmers, not fewer and fewer. To get there, we need to think outside the box. Trouble is, only about seven of us western Canadian farmers do, so I guess it is what it is. Bigger and better forever!

    Here is an example. On my little farm, rather than panic and act like with my land base it’s impossible, I look at different options. If my four kids wish to farm, which may well be the case, we will find a way.

    It will not involve over priced land, iron, and will certainly not be at the mercy of a few input and mass commodity buying conglomerates.

    I have been planning to start a thread about this idea of farming differently. Especially in the sense of generational transfer. But I presume it will die due to lack of interest. Long live the cookie cutter farm. Ugh.

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      #14
      Originally posted by jazz View Post
      Maybe we should be trying to settle those Ukrainian refugees on the prairies instead of Toronto.

      Sask lost population last yr.
      My wife and I were talking about that in the last while.

      All the empty old farm houses that need a little upgrade using the government program for better windows and insulation could restore thriving communities of the past with these immigrants.

      They probably won't ask for much. A safe sky, a garden , a home, and some employment to get by.

      Tremendous potential for rural saskatchewan.

      In reality , it won't happen.

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        #15
        Originally posted by Sheepwheat View Post
        We need more farmers, not fewer and fewer. To get there, we need to think outside the box. Trouble is, only about seven of us western Canadian farmers do, so I guess it is what it is. Bigger and better forever!

        Here is an example. On my little farm, rather than panic and act like with my land base it’s impossible, I look at different options. If my four kids wish to farm, which may well be the case, we will find a way.

        It will not involve over priced land, iron, and will certainly not be at the mercy of a few input and mass commodity buying conglomerates.

        I have been planning to start a thread about this idea of farming differently. Especially in the sense of generational transfer. But I presume it will die due to lack of interest. Long live the cookie cutter farm. Ugh.
        Hear, hear. History has a way of repeating. There is no one way to make an intergenerational farm work. There are a lot of successful operations that have not expanded land but have done things like grow high intensive, high value crops, intensive livestock, pasture raised chickens, bee keeping, on farm manufacturing, etc etc, the list is endless. Very interesting topic. I think that access to credit, interest rates and other road blocks will again become an issue and the need to adapt will be apparent.

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          #16
          Sounds like the Big M farms got way bigger in the last few weeks

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            #17
            40 years of falling interest rates are responsible. Rising asset prices are the flip side of a falling rate of interest. It's all about the concept of net present value.

            Price rises become more dramatic as the rate of interest approaches zero.

            This will become meteoric once rates drop into negative territory.

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              #18
              https://twitter.com/realagriculture/status/1506279154081316876

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                #19
                So you figure the feds are buying Sk in order to turn it into a giant reserve? Great way for the feds to further subvert the west. I also would like to see more farmers on the land not less. With some flexible off farm income it does not take that large a land base to support a family depending off course on what your needs are. Would even be a competitive income situation if 2/3 of the governments work force was be laid off as it needs to be.
                Last edited by ajl; Mar 23, 2022, 12:38.

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                  #20
                  In canada we have a fed gov that’s going to make up for all that was lost for First Nations and the only way is Sask farm land. It’s more than hiding money etc. I’m saying follow the money something is up and farmers aren’t borrowing hundreds of millions to buy land. Yea a section here and there or two but not 100 quarter deals.

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                    #21
                    Originally posted by Sheepwheat View Post
                    We need more farmers, not fewer and fewer. To get there, we need to think outside the box. Trouble is, only about seven of us western Canadian farmers do, so I guess it is what it is. Bigger and better forever!

                    Here is an example. On my little farm, rather than panic and act like with my land base it’s impossible, I look at different options. If my four kids wish to farm, which may well be the case, we will find a way.

                    It will not involve over priced land, iron, and will certainly not be at the mercy of a few input and mass commodity buying conglomerates.

                    I have been planning to start a thread about this idea of farming differently. Especially in the sense of generational transfer. But I presume it will die due to lack of interest. Long live the cookie cutter farm. Ugh.
                    I admire what you are doing.
                    For a renaissance of family farms to occur, the standard of living and quality of life will have to equal elsewhere.
                    Rural life as we know it today is a commitment for those accustomed to amenities and mobility.
                    You can sell the idea to a New York couple pretty easy. But the lack of access to the rest of the world their sacrifice.
                    Both parents will have to make living from the farm. All the children will have to make do. Limited extra curricular, limited health care, limited education. Heck, we don't even have decent internet.
                    I'm very glad it works for you. Your children are very lucky.
                    But for mainstream, I suspect a tough sell.
                    Last edited by blackpowder; Mar 23, 2022, 13:38.

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                      #22
                      Originally posted by SASKFARMER View Post
                      In canada we have a fed gov that’s going to make up for all that was lost for First Nations and the only way is Sask farm land. It’s more than hiding money etc. I’m saying follow the money something is up and farmers aren’t borrowing hundreds of millions to buy land. Yea a section here and there or two but not 100 quarter deals.
                      Only 4% of Canadas land is privately held. There is lots of crown land to gift to them. They didnt just inhabit prairie.

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                        #23
                        Originally posted by jazz View Post
                        Maybe we should be trying to settle those Ukrainian refugees on the prairies instead of Toronto.

                        Sask lost population last yr.
                        I doubt a lot of Ukrainian farmers are refugees.
                        Military age males can't leave the country.

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                          #24
                          All i am saying is go into your bank this spring throw all your clear titles down on the desk say 10 20 30 40 100 200 whatever you have.

                          Then say at $500,000.00 a quarter or whatever your area is x that many quarters we will use 10 as an example.

                          that's $5,000,000.00 mill now tell them you want to risk it all and borrow 20 mill using the 5 as a down payment.

                          Tell me how many will get the 20 mill. So you know its investor money.

                          So what's the plan i say slippery liberals getting the land for land reclamation and not having to deal paying sask farmers the money.

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