killing an established hay stand..question.

[shtferbrains]

In old hay stands the hardest things I find to kill are dandelion and Brome grass.
The 720 gly plus express was best I saw is you arn't growing canola.
Spring spraying will leave the seedbed powder dry as you have to let the hay get to the 5 leaf or results will be poor.

You can't spray a little wee plant and expect to tranlocate enough to kill a four foot root.

[Guest]

720 grams of active glyphosate.

Yes but add express pro if wheat or barley
If oats add express for those yellow flowers

[Sodbuster]

For best results fall spraying is your optimal time to get hay stands with quack grass, dandelions and other weeds and adding express would give it a lot more kick.

[bjf2]

The only thing that kills grass is steel. Spike twice disk once cullavate with harrows and if you have a harrowpacker bar they work great for breaking down sod.Pray it dosent blow .Its smooth as a baby but no more ruff stuff.

[TOM4CWB]

For best results fall spraying is your optimal time to get hay stands with quack grass, dandelions and other weeds and adding express would give it a lot more kick.

Cross seeded two directions [1870 conservapac with good spring rains] shallow seedbed 3" Deep band; with a good hybred RR Canola, use Eclipse [Glyph/Lontrel] to kill the Alfalfa and thistles/etc.
Has worked out well for me, once it canopies over the sod breaks down well under the Canola canopy, needs 120lbN NH3 [60lbN each pass] works best. Top dressing with 21-0-0 fines 150lb/ac kicks up the sod breakdown on the zero till. After 3 years [Canola-Wht-peas landroll each yr] the sod is gone and very mellow ground!!!

Cheers