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[wade]

[QUOTE=furrowtickler;543548]First year of soil treatment , only one shot so far



Two years of Crop Aid Plus soil amendment

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Thank you for sharing your plot work.

What is approximate product cost/acre/application of the Crop Aid Plus?

[jazz]

furrow, you should head to the UofS and get some side line work in the ag research dept.

[furrowtickler]

The seed treatment on cereals and peas works out to about $4/ac
The crop aid plus is $5-6 /ac
We add the Plus to the Alpine or Liquid 28 at seeding. Then you can also add it to either the herbicide or fungicide application

[furrowtickler]

furrow, you should head to the UofS and get some side line work in the ag research dept.

I just happen to know a few people a lot smarter than me and am willing to see with an open mind .
It’s those people who should be at the UofS .
I graduated with a few of these very smart guys at the UofS back in the early 90’s .
Learned from the pea root rot train wreck that we needed to fix our soils . Adding foliars and fungicide after the fact is just simply a bandaid to the real issue in the soils around here .

[poorboy]

Have you had any luck with the pea root rot issue?

Seems here that reserve soil moisture is the difference. Dry in 2021 no pea root rot. Lots of June rain in 2022, but no soil reserve moisture and no pea root rot.

Not sure if the previous 12 month bone dry soil reduced innoculum levels or lack of spring subsoil moisture or both.

[poorboy]

The seed treatment on cereals and peas works out to about $4/ac
The crop aid plus is $5-6 /ac
We add the Plus to the Alpine or Liquid 28 at seeding. Then you can also add it to either the herbicide or fungicide application

Thanks for posting all your trials and results.

[WiltonRanch]

In fact , the soil amendment we are using now is making a huge difference in our clay soils ..



Building carbon without the Gabe Brown system….

Gabe builds his bank account from speaking tours.

[furrowtickler]

Have you had any luck with the pea root rot issue?

Seems here that reserve soil moisture is the difference. Dry in 2021 no pea root rot. Lots of June rain in 2022, but no soil reserve moisture and no pea root rot.

Not sure if the previous 12 month bone dry soil reduced innoculum levels or lack of spring subsoil moisture or both.

It has more to do with soil than anything
We had root rot in dryish years as well .
Add in 3-4 crop year rotation, herbicides that cause injury at the worst time when the peas are not quite nodulating yet and cool mornings before or after herbicide application or a heavy rain after a pre emergence herbicide

For us it was mostly compacted clay soils was the main reason. Add in one or more of the above and it made the situation worse dramatically.

A healthy soil , and a herbicide application that causes no injury and peas can do well even if aphenomycies is present . Fusarium root rot was the biggest issue here

[WiltonRanch]

It has more to do with soil than anything
We had root rot in dryish years as well .
Add in 3-4 crop year rotation, herbicides that cause injury at the worst time when the peas are not quite nodulating yet and cool mornings before or after herbicide application or a heavy rain after a pre emergence herbicide

For us it was mostly compacted clay soils was the main reason. Add in one or more of the above and it made the situation worse dramatically.

A healthy soil , and a herbicide application that causes no injury and peas cause do well even if aphenomycies is present . Fusarium root rot was the biggest issue here

You have Speers Solonetzic soils? We have some those and they can be a bugger if not in that Goldilocks zone.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

If you were Clay soil in any way resembled our gray wooded clay soil before you started with the amendments, then that is nothing short of a miracle. We have aggregates the size of a basketball typically.
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that we are starting from completely different initial conditions.