Side by sides

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Wheat …

Bourgault 12 in space , 3.5 in paired row right , New seed master 15 in SR

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Bourgault



SR seed master

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Not a fan of 12 inch spacing in cereals and lentils.

Too much real estate left unused.

In Europe wheat is seeded on 6inch rows .

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Not a fan of 12 inch spacing in cereals and lentils.

Too much real estate left unused.

In Europe wheat is seeded on 6inch rows .

That’s why we like the paired row, puts us at 8.5 without a million shanks in the ground

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The canola side by side with Horsch planter and the SR Seed master …


Horsch right , SM left

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Horsch at 2.5 lbs on 15 in


SM at 3.5 lbs on 15 in



Both same variety, same seed lot , same fertility

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Both close when looked from back a bit
Will be interesting

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In this plot with the SM , we did 3.5 , 4 and 4.5 lbs . On both sides and the rest of the field is the Horsch at 2.5 lbs or 220,000 seeds per ac
We typically stay close to 200,000 but were concerned about very dry conditions after planting. This field got nipped by frost but just twice .
The SM looks more consistent in general, and that’s a function of cold and direct seeding with a planter without row cleaners

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And yes , without a doubt ever , seed quality matters in cold dry conditions at emergence….


Everything identical… I will leave it at that
Many of you are seeing the same thing in that BASF thread .

I have seen this off and on for 30 years , and when it happens, it’s deer in the headlights look 👀. Not fun but absolute reality

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Wheatland HRSW …


Was happy with this variety last year even in very drought conditions
Seeded with ole bourgault May 14

[Guest]

thanks furrowfor sharing your testing and knowledge
you put a lot of time and input into these
most of us never quit learning in this business and really appreciate your efforts!

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I have learned most from simply doing , and sharing info with other farmers . Still learn more everyday and pass on as much as I can to the next generation now my nephew. None of this is taught in ag school or from a book . Simply boots on the ground and watching and listening what others do right and wrong .
Every year has its challenges. We were sitting good last year about this time then the taps turned off completely. Mother Nature still rules the roost

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Everything identical… I will leave it at that

Furrow, I am not getting you on this side by side test. Different varieties, seed size etc. Pls elaborate.

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Furrow, I am not getting you on this side by side test. Different varieties, seed size etc. Pls elaborate.

It’s in a plot with 8 varieties, all RR . All seeded the same time, same fertility, same everything
The variety on the left had a ton of cracks in it , seed treatment was dusty and seed size was variable. The one on the right was nice even big seed . In dry cold conditions, seed quality is huge
This was seeded around the 20th so not “early” but we had cold dry frosts from May 31 to June 3
This stuff was just up and seemed not affected.
The balance of the field looks good . Just this one variety that had very questionable looking seed when we opened the bag .

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The one on the right was nice even big seed . In dry cold conditions, seed quality is huge.

So this is the problem I have every year. Cannot be guaranteed seed size, just take whatever they give.

Maybe the BTOs get the good stuff and small frys like me get whatever's left over. Who knows.

I was just contemplating this morning phoning my reps to see if any size D was returned and in the shed and just taking that for next year. A year old Size D probably has the same vigour as those smaller sizes.