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    #13
    Funny Russia Ukraine is brought into this discussion. India plays both sides in this conflict. Though they are relatively a friendly power towards the world they buy a lot of petroleum and arms from Russia and are fairly friendly with them during this conflict. Sure it’s a matter of survival for them but sentiment amongst the people there and even the ones in Canada is pro Russia. China is a major pain in their ass and Pakistan as well. West supplies Pakistan with arms so who do they have to trust and arm them? Jazz if Ukraine is the most corrupt then how much more corrupt is the kleptocracy of the Russian Federation? I hear all these things about Ukraine being so corrupt and what not but where is the evidence? Enough bullshit out there to baffle even the smartest if they don’t look at it with a clear head.

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      #14
      Originally posted by WiltonRanch View Post
      Jazz if Ukraine is the most corrupt then how much more corrupt is the kleptocracy of the Russian Federation? .
      Oh russia is no bastion of democracy, but there is another level of corruption going on in the world.

      Its first world nations messing around in 3rd world ones, giving cash away that finds it way back as dark funds. Thats why we gave $1.3B in Africa and $250M to chinas infrastructure fund to built railways, and we dont build anything here. We dont give money anywhere that wont find its way back here.

      Or its 3rd worlds ones with a lot of influence messing around in ours, cough china.

      To my knowledge, no western power is actively inside russia messing around. And to my knowledge, russia has no influence here.

      Now I layer on some more extra national bodies like the UN, WEF, IPCC, WHO, G7, NATO etc and it becomes exponential corruption. Ukraine is right in the center of that. Hell a sitting presidents family is implicated right there.
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        #15
        Originally posted by jazz View Post
        Oh russia is no bastion of democracy, but there is another level of corruption going on in the world.

        Its first world nations messing around in 3rd world ones, giving cash away that finds it way back as dark funds. Thats why we gave $1.3B in Africa and $250M to chinas infrastructure fund to built railways, and we dont build anything here. We dont give money anywhere that wont find its way back here.

        Or its 3rd worlds ones with a lot of influence messing around in ours, cough china.

        To my knowledge, no western power is actively inside russia messing around. And to my knowledge, russia has no influence here.

        Now I layer on some more extra national bodies like the UN, WEF, IPCC, WHO, G7, NATO etc and it becomes exponential corruption. Ukraine is right in the center of that. Hell a sitting presidents family is implicated right there.
        Trudeau is in way over his head.

        It is like he is swimming in the middle of the Atlantic… in a hurricane… with 60 foot waves… he has no idea how to get out of the eye of the storm…

        Other than to tolk and chant a climate change mantra of saving humanity through decarbonization of the world economy… while drowning and dying from exposure to the storm.

        Biden is no better.

        What an unmitigated disaster… and Putin is stirring the water and making the storm worse for all he can.

        Cheers

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          #16
          Originally posted by TSIPP View Post
          WTF ff, did you just walk out of a crack house or a safe injection site?
          Partners is suggesting the Canadian government should not send money to Ukraine to fight the Russian genocide but spend it on eliminating homelessness in Canada.

          I guess your under the delusion that drug addicts are not homeless. How do you propose they wean the homeless off of drugs and rid them of their addictions. I would think you would have to get them coming to a location where you have chance of intervening in some sort of manner and slowly helping them.

          But, by all means let's hear your suggestion since you decided to dip your toe in the water while adding nothing.

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            #17
            Think the biggest problem and myself included is we don’t see the world enough to get perspective. I’m not talking tourist traps but maybe living and working abroad or talking to people worldwide or their family here. We watch whatever media that suits our political and philosophical leanings and don’t get an accurate picture. Same as the discussion here about homelessness, drugs, abortion, gays etc. We all have opinions and think we know everything but experience it or talk to those at the ground level and you will know less than you did before.

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              #18
              Originally posted by foragefarmer View Post
              Partners is suggesting the Canadian government should not send money to Ukraine to fight the Russian genocide but spend it on eliminating homelessness in Canada.

              I guess your under the delusion that drug addicts are not homeless. How do you propose they wean the homeless off of drugs and rid them of their addictions. I would think you would have to get them coming to a location where you have chance of intervening in some sort of manner and slowly helping them.

              But, by all means let's hear your suggestion since you decided to dip your toe in the water while adding nothing.
              Teen challenge has a 70% plus success rate in helping ppl with addictions. Government programs devoid of “religion” is like two %. That darn biblical “religion”. Getting peoples lives back on track. Can’t have that. Better take away their charitable status, quick.

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                #19
                Helping.... Thats $600B given away this week.

                Got to launder it somewhere. Zelensky can revamp his florida mansion and Trudeau foundation gets a nice little boost. WEF clowns probably in line too.

                Canada is so fcked. When they open the books on this past 7 yrs, we are going to be shocked.

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                  Being a NWO stooge sure pays well.

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                    #21
                    Unfortunately I think your not wrong Jazz

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                      #22
                      ff, at least I didn’t add deception in my post.
                      Anyway this is my thought on the homeless, try and help the ones that are actually trying, the ones that don’t want help or that are happy doing what ever they do good for them it’s the survival of the fittest, no one has an answer to all the world’s problems but the Trudeau government isn’t helping, I honestly believe most of the world’s governments are trying their darnedest to collapse society, in their own perverted way.

                      The more money that gets into the Ukraine is the more deaths it will cause, money won’t fix this....

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                        #23
                        Originally posted by TSIPP View Post
                        ff, at least I didn’t add deception in my post.
                        Anyway this is my thought on the homeless, try and help the ones that are actually trying, the ones that don’t want help or that are happy doing what ever they do good for them it’s the survival of the fittest, no one has an answer to all the world’s problems but the Trudeau government isn’t helping, I honestly believe most of the world’s governments are trying their darnedest to collapse society, in their own perverted way.

                        The more money that gets into the Ukraine is the more deaths it will cause, money won’t fix this....
                        My feelings is the Russian Federation wants its last kick at the can of being a world power like China. Their time is running out. Plain and simple. Ukraine is their casualty of empire building. If you want to play Neville Chamberlain go ahead see how history judges you. I agree with you to an extent with a lot of homelessness issues. Can’t help those who don’t want help but it’s a complex issue in itself. Pisses me off though when I go for mail and bums and druggies hanging about and od’ing in the lobby. Can’t get my mail after 5 pm because of these assholes. Soup kitchen and bum hangout right beside. I’ve called the cops several times because I thought guys were dead or causing such a problem, and it’s not just certain racialized groups neither. I really don’t know how you fix it. I’m not religious but what I gathered as a young person from my moderate Christian family was hope and charity and second chances but sometimes you walk away and leave it in the lords hands.

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                          #24
                          Originally posted by TSIPP View Post
                          The more money that gets into the Ukraine is the more deaths it will cause, money won’t fix this....
                          Ya you've made it perfectly clear where you stand on the Genocide of Ukraine when your biggest concern was the video you and your wife were watching of Zelensky.


                          Sure glad when Hitler invaded Poland in 1939 the rest of world didn't have your let's sit back and do nothing attitude, because the rest of the break away Baltic countries are next on Putin's radar.

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