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    #13
    Jazz, $450.00 Urea?

    And yet you called for $200.00- $300.00/barrel oil.

    Something don't jive with your predictions?

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      #14
      Natural gas equivalent to a barrel of oil in the EU is $500.00 US.

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        #15
        Originally posted by checking View Post
        Natural gas equivalent to a barrel of oil in the EU is $500.00 US.
        And guess how much nitrogen fertilizer they can afford to make with those natural gas prices? And they certainly aren't the only ones in that boat right now. Yet the internet and real life are full of armchair pundits who are certain that the fertilizer and input shortages, associated supply chain problems have all magically gone away, and along with them any potential food shortages.

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          #16
          Most Chinese NH3 plants use coal to source the hydrogen from.

          Most countries that have a lot of avaliable natural gas upgrade some of it to nitrogen products for export.

          We don't encourage that here as virtue signaling is more important.

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            #17
            Originally posted by Goodtime View Post
            For the hell of it I googled Dutch Ptotests, ABC news, Bloomberg etc everyone covering it. I searched both CBC and CTV sites, absolutely nothing, are we living in censored China?
            You got it.

            I think I will buy next years fertilizer, now. Could have just about paid for the bin if I had bought in July last year, except I'm not sure if fertilizer was even available last July?
            Last edited by Stormin; Jul 3, 2022, 23:11.

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              #18
              I know the solution! The Dutch government should declare a state of emergency!

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                #19
                A E, "The Dutch government should declare a state of emergency! "

                They just may have to. Everything getting locked down now,,, and this time not by the government(& WEF) and their control, but rather the people's control!











                Why no Media coverage??? not even on cjme/ckom???

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                  #20
                  that tells us ALL we need to know...MEDIA is the ENEMY!

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                    #21
                    You guys best up your game lobbying as you will be facing your own 30% reduction in emissions.

                    An easy target as you pretty much will just accept it without much noise or backlash.

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                      #22
                      Originally posted by tweety View Post
                      You guys best up your game lobbying as you will be facing your own 30% reduction in emissions.

                      An easy target as you pretty much will just accept it without much noise or backlash.
                      Some of us figured that out a while ago . Those of us with boots on the ground , hands in the soil and our buts in the seats

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                        #23
                        Are they seeking a 30% reduction in nitrogen emissions or nitrogen usage. I suspect that it is the later. Western Canadian ag has very little in nitrogen emissions. My 30 yr old tractor and combine do emit a bit of NOX but banded fertilizer stays were it is put unless crop uses it especially at the modest rates I use. We do get surface run off from time to time so a bit of organic matter does move carrying with it some nutrients. What other sources of nitrogen 'emissions' are there? Oh yeah, reminder that this has nothing to do with the environment.

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                          #24
                          I seeded a couple hundred acres with clover under the cereals. I feed cows out in the fields to fertilize the soil. My nitrogen usage is paltry compared to some. How much more can I cut back before I’m not profitable and better off seeding it to grass and letting the deer have it. Natives figure we stole it from. Thought it was worth fighting for but darn now it’s pointless. The Holdmodor is a prime example of how we can be snuffed out if we don’t agree the tyrant.

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