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    New grain dryers..interesting

    """"One company is hoping to change that fossil-fuel-only option with its Triple Green BioDryAir.

    Cody Kimmel, with Triple Green, says the unit is designed to burn several types of biomass, instead of natural gas and propane, and burn biomass.

    Available in several sizes, beginning with 3 million BTUs and up to 30 million BTUs, Kimmel says these dryers can run off of straw, wood pellets, or other biomass that will burn at 1800 degrees."""""



    How much energy does it take to make wood pellets?

    Do straw bales not use plastics for wrapping?


    I think the wood pellets idea came up in an ag committee meeting so more than likely there is government money into it.

    #2
    Can you imagine how much fun it would be to change those sisal netwrap rolls every 4 bales?

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      #3
      A good indication of how well they work?
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        #4
        To be honest, this is a fantastic idea. If they could get it down to straw bales as a source for heat it would greatly reduce our costs to dry grain ( so would a nice open fall til..oh.. i dunno... december?) .
        But wood chips and wood pellets? Cmon
        the cost to produce and source those to farm is 10 fold over natural gas ( in our area).
        Now, for a govt program to cover 50% of this? Sheesh.. anyone who can afford this rig doesnt need the help. And thats the issue with the green push...it is being subsidized to get people into it bcuz its still just not QUITE cost effective yet. im young enough to understand the sentiment of the younger generations ( under 40 like me) but old enough to realize that fossil fuels currently cost us way less than green energy to utilize.

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          #5
          Originally posted by goalieguy847 View Post
          To be honest, this is a fantastic idea. If they could get it down to straw bales as a source for heat it would greatly reduce our costs to dry grain ( so would a nice open fall til..oh.. i dunno... december?) .
          But wood chips and wood pellets? Cmon
          the cost to produce and source those to farm is 10 fold over natural gas ( in our area).
          Now, for a govt program to cover 50% of this? Sheesh.. anyone who can afford this rig doesnt need the help. And thats the issue with the green push...it is being subsidized to get people into it bcuz its still just not QUITE cost effective yet. im young enough to understand the sentiment of the younger generations ( under 40 like me) but old enough to realize that fossil fuels currently cost us way less than green energy to utilize.
          We have a DryAir now, uses radiator in front of air fans. To create syngas could create the heat source, there are many lower carbon fuels than wood pellets and straw… Heat pumps to heat the radiators hot water as source, even better would be solar heating of the water sources… if additional drying beyond natural air drying… which obviously is the least carbon intensive.

          Hopper bins with rocket air ducts can be very efficient grain conditioning infrastructure.

          For those of us who have set up low carbon drying grain systems… this is unfair subsidization.

          Cheers

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            #6
            Originally posted by TOM4CWB View Post
            We have a DryAir now, uses radiator in front of air fans. To create syngas could create the heat source, there are many lower carbon fuels than wood pellets and straw… Heat pumps to heat the radiators hot water as source, even better would be solar heating of the water sources… if additional drying beyond natural air drying… which obviously is the least carbon intensive.

            Hopper bins with rocket air ducts can be very efficient grain conditioning infrastructure.

            For those of us who have set up low carbon drying grain systems… this is unfair subsidization.

            Cheers
            Sooo can u retroactively get this subsidy ? Would seem fair as you were leading the pack..

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              #7
              Why is the air quality so bad in some parts of the world? They burn biomass and create smog and tons of particulates for everyone to breath. But thats progress when it comes to drying grain? Sounds like the anti oil lobby has gone stupid. It definitely does nothing as far as CO2.

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                #8
                I’m still holding onto my plan to burn used tires for drying grain, it’ll be a winner some day

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                  #9
                  This government and the anti oil crew would rather see you heating your house by burning garbage and combining your crops by hand than have any more oil pulled from the ground.

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                    #10
                    I don't know about you guys, but I've got nothing but spare time to be hauling straw bales up to the bin yard, and dumping them in the burner when I'm in the middle of harvest.

                    I do like the idea of using our own byproducts for heat or power or drying. Just don't claim it is green, or low carbon.

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                      #11
                      I've seen flax straw bales tried for shop heat.
                      They have to be in full flame with no reduced air or they just smolder with very little to no heat but lots of smoke.

                      Could probably get a federal grant for a couple of million to make some into pellets if you had the right connections and understood how the kickback system works.

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                        #12
                        Burning biomass probably generates CO2 more so than burning natural gas but as we all know - it’s all about anti oil - more specifically, its all about anti Western Canadian oil. Oil from Iraq, Russia, Venezuela good - Alberta oil bad.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post
                          Burning biomass probably generates CO2 more so than burning natural gas but as we all know - it’s all about anti oil - more specifically, its all about anti Western Canadian oil. Oil from Iraq, Russia, Venezuela good - Alberta oil bad.
                          You forgot Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦

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