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    #11
    Originally posted by goalieguy847 View Post
    The other problem with crop share ( as an owner) is that its essy to hide a load or 2 of crop and your crop maybe only did 40 ... while tbe other fields did 60. Its easy for the farmer to screw the landowner...
    Around here it's come down to grain cart scale totals.

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      #12
      I have a neighbour who crop shared from a guy up the road who sat out in his truck all night to make sure every load was going back into his yard.
      Some real trust there!!
      To top it off he was 80.
      Maybe he took out coffee and donuts.

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        #13
        Originally posted by poorboy View Post
        Any decent farm should be able to work out a crop share on 6 quarters. The reason they want cash rent is because it is cheaper for them.

        Might be time for a new renter.
        Better yet farm it yourself
        Or pay to get it custom farmed
        The problem with share crop is that it’s too expensive for the farmer
        Our expenses went up 35-100% on everything!
        Your taxes might of went up 5-10%
        Yet your income as share crop income has doubled or tripled
        Last edited by Guest; Sep 15, 2022, 06:54.

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          #14
          Originally posted by blackpowder View Post
          U haven't lived as a sharecropper until you use his 20 bpa 1200 bushel bins and scrambled to find seperate homes or better, bag it at your full expense for the rest. For someone who hasn't spent one dime in decades.
          One guy I almost put a 10,000 b pile on his lawn. I literally had no where else.
          Go get your own one ton and Scoop a Second.
          Stay current or stay home.
          Calling someone a sharecropper is an insult.
          yep some of these landowners have lost touch with reality

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            #15
            A young lad down the road I talked too just picked up 3 1/4 "s from a 80 year old. He had not received any rent money the last 3 years and was just looking to get enough to cover his living expense.
            There is likely a reason some of the old boys have to park in the field during harvest. But if you park behind the new service truck and other shinny trucks at the end of the field nobody will see you anyway.

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              #16
              My landlords, who rent their land to an STO, receive rent in advance of the season. My advice to the OP would be to do something similar as in find a smaller op that can accommodate your needs. The BTO has stated that your land is not that important to them so they can be spared the hassle. I will grant that watching X9's harvest your crop is much cooler than the older machine that I use. Got some good crop this year so planning an upgrade but will not be to an X9. To the 80 year old that did not get rent for a few years, maybe it is time to sell? 5% on a GIC beats that.
              Last edited by ajl; Sep 15, 2022, 08:28.

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                #17
                The best crop share / cash rent deal we did was fair for both . 1/2 the going cash rent on similar land and 10% crop share.
                They get a guaranteed amount to cover tax’s and more, while we did not give up way to much in excessive crop share so we could still cover expenses on our side with less risk
                But very few want to be bothered with thinking differently

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                  #18
                  furrow.
                  And after several years, how did it compare to cash??
                  Fair to both usually means close to going rate cash.
                  U have a rare landowner.
                  That arrangement here, would be $160 + . Again right on top cash.
                  Long term deals redone every so often are at max $110.
                  You're going to need that $50
                  Last edited by blackpowder; Sep 15, 2022, 08:34.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by blackpowder View Post
                    furrow.
                    And after several years, how did it compare to cash??
                    Fair to both usually means close to going rate cash.
                    U have a rare landowner.
                    That arrangement here, would be $160 + . Again right on top cash.
                    Long term deals redone every so often are at max $110.
                    You're going to need that $50
                    Had a rare landowner, they have since passed
                    Now it mostly cash , some crop share left .
                    Yup on good years close to cash , but risk is less
                    We have not had many good years heat lately
                    This year decent yes .

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                      #20
                      Haven't seen thirds here since eighties. Quarter too much of gross.
                      Fifth closer to cash here.

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