Crop Share vs Cash Rent

[Sheepwheat]

saw lotsa old pricks here take advantage of their renter
like making then combine , haul, dry their last crops, dig ditches they never could , clean up piles , bush , etc
or do work for them for SFA, then forget who renter was when it came time to sell
don't even go there FFS

Worse is when you are kind just because you’re kind generally, and they pull it out from you because your combine isn’t new enough or big enough to their liking. I guess flashing dollars, talking big, and arrogance means more than kindness. If you get an offer from a greedy guy, at least have the decency to tell the current guy, and give him a chance to match or counteroffer?

I’ve had both kinds of landlords. The ones who let you do your job, are gracious and return kindness, and the ones who try to do your job for you, and reply to kindness with belligerence.

The only safe land is owned land. That’s my tip of the day. Haha.

[fjlip]

High risk renting Reserve land around here....got to be on their good side, then band council changes and all bets are off.

[Guest]

i could never figure out why reserves don't farm their own land ? they want industry , jobs ? chuck , anyone ?

[furrowtickler]

i could never figure out why reserves don't farm their own land ? they want industry , jobs ? chuck , anyone ?

It’s been tried here a few times , free land payments , free machinery , still a complete failure. Most stuff trashed in a year
Some may have been successful elsewhere not sure as a band level
A few individual First Nation farmers have done very well at Sweetgrass FN west of here
Red Pheasant was still is a complete train wreck

[furrowtickler]

One would think large scale ranching , cattle or bison would be a Perfect fit
There is a bison ranch run by FN south of Glaslyn, looks like it’s being run well

[furrowtickler]

One earth still exist ? Did they not have a huge billionaire investor behind that one , sure not to fail ?
Have not heard much about that in a few years

[Old Cowzilla]

One would think large scale ranching , cattle or bison would be a Perfect fit
There is a bison ranch run by FN south of Glaslyn, looks like it’s being run well

Hauled a couple of dozen cows out to a local reserve the guy ran 200 or so at the time. Said he hated ice fishing and needed something to do in the winter. It was one of those -25 mornings when I got there and he showed me how well his new atv started not plugged in out in the middle of the yard. Just remember that he had acres and acres of round bales and must have been very busy in the summer too.

[Guest]

the good ones can out work most of us any day
had lots work for me in my former life

[LWeber]

One earth still exist ? Did they not have a huge billionaire investor behind that one , sure not to fail ?
Have not heard much about that in a few years

He is still a billionaire

[furrowtickler]

That’s good cause the farm the would not fail turned out a complete disaster

[TOM4CWB]

Wiseguy it will be interesting to see what crop insurance prices are in March, but till then, the risk of hedges for more than fertilizer seed and weed control is huge in these war priced drought ravaged grain markets .

No problem sharing some 2022 revenues, too early to determine 2023 cash returns …

Hope landlords will be reasonable and patient!

Blessings and Salutations

[SWFarmer]

What's the new Cash rent for 2023 ????

https://andjelic.ca/product-category/land-packages

Seems like cash rents are still going up a bit

[BTO780]

Grow canolie for $280 ac throw in another $100 cash rent … priceless!!

Work real hard for nothing!!

Those Andjelics of the world need to take a long cold bath one of these yrs. But again, farmers are to blame again feeding him what he wants.

[LWeber]

Grow canolie for $280 ac throw in another $100 cash rent … priceless!!

Work real hard for nothing!!

Those Andjelics of the world need to take a long cold bath one of these yrs. But again, farmers are to blame again feeding him what he wants.

NW SK some $160.00+ was inked recently...not that far from Furrow

[blackpowder]

Rents will not be going down anytime soon. If offered, you will have 3 seconds to reply. It's not rocket science.
Caution based on your own scale requirements or risk profile always warranted.
I have spent a lifetime waiting for "cheap".