Crop Share vs Cash Rent

[Guest]

50 x 18 = 900 an acre x 1/3 share = $ 297 an acre !

change from cash rent to share rent !

give yer*** head a shake
canola inputs are close to $500, machinery costs and parts through the roof, plus $297 1/3 share
nothing for the guy doing all the work and taking all the risk ??????????????????
are you high? or just being sarcastic?
if you're serious , good luck finding anyone simple enough to agree to it!

[TOM4CWB]

Haven't seen thirds here since eighties. Quarter too much of gross.
Fifth closer to cash here.

Third crop share normally included 1/3 of cash expenses off 1/3 gross landowner's income...or;

1/4 share of gross with no cash expenses ... has been the norm for many...or;

or 1/3 gross income to farming partner... with all cash expenses paid by landowner to assure farming status with CRA... the farming partner pays the expenses and then farmer subtracts them from the 2/3rds gross, then paying the remainder to landowner.... after all farming cash expenses and grain sales complete for that crop year. Trust is required for these arrangements to work...by landowner of farmer especially...

Cheers

[blackpowder]

Agree Tom but glad to see those days behind me.

[furrowtickler]

Problem nowadays Tom is that some older landlords can’t comprehend the massive increase in inputs and that can be an issue and a headache not worthwhile for the renter to explain when costs used to be $100 / ac that are now over triple even on modest farms .

[shtferbrains]

Crop share was common when CWB quota and summerfallow were the norm.
If you were on 1/2 SF or even 1/3 SF with very little cash inputs the appeal of not paying the landlord 1/2 or 1/3 of the time but having the additional quota made it the most popular.

I'm surprised when I hear it mentioned today.
Can't see any appeal for the tenant.

[furrowtickler]

Increase of inputs ain't the landlord's problem !

I feel it's better to get a better deal on canola seed and fertilizer than Jew on the rent !

I dont pre buy fertilizer before the rents paid !

It sure is heck is when they are paying a share of expenses if you are in that type of arrangement .
But that’s for those to worry about .

[furrowtickler]

Saw a guy out here ruin his whole farm by chiseling on the rent when he was to stupid to realize he was getting every break under the sun !

Probably would of inherited the land some day !

Strange things happen when it comes to land !

Good thing is here no one even mentioned chiseling rent on this thread

[Guest]

saw lotsa old pricks here take advantage of their renter
like making then combine , haul, dry their last crops, dig ditches they never could , clean up piles , bush , etc
or do work for them for SFA, then forget who renter was when it came time to sell
don't even go there FFS

[Guest]

we rent from some very, very good fair people who understand what we are doing ,we pay them in FEB. , treat their land like our own, its a good business arrangement . they can't believe the money we are spending
lucky its not some of the ones that became unhinged from reality

[Partners]

1 cash rent..owner tells us to pay him what we think is fair..
$100 per acre the last 2 yrs..
1 crop share.
Owner gets their % and able to sell when ever they want.
Both work great..