Crop Share vs Cash Rent

[TOM4CWB]

Wiseguy it will be interesting to see what crop insurance prices are in March, but till then, the risk of hedges for more than fertilizer seed and weed control is huge in these war priced drought ravaged grain markets .

No problem sharing some 2022 revenues, too early to determine 2023 cash returns …

Hope landlords will be reasonable and patient!

Blessings and Salutations

[SWFarmer]

What's the new Cash rent for 2023 ????

https://andjelic.ca/product-category/land-packages

Seems like cash rents are still going up a bit

[BTO780]

Grow canolie for $280 ac throw in another $100 cash rent … priceless!!

Work real hard for nothing!!

Those Andjelics of the world need to take a long cold bath one of these yrs. But again, farmers are to blame again feeding him what he wants.

[LWeber]

Grow canolie for $280 ac throw in another $100 cash rent … priceless!!

Work real hard for nothing!!

Those Andjelics of the world need to take a long cold bath one of these yrs. But again, farmers are to blame again feeding him what he wants.

NW SK some $160.00+ was inked recently...not that far from Furrow

[blackpowder]

Rents will not be going down anytime soon. If offered, you will have 3 seconds to reply. It's not rocket science.
Caution based on your own scale requirements or risk profile always warranted.
I have spent a lifetime waiting for "cheap".

[foragefarmer]

Rents will not be going down anytime soon. If offered, you will have 3 seconds to reply. It's not rocket science.
Caution based on your own scale requirements or risk profile always warranted.
I have spent a lifetime waiting for "cheap".

Cheap is comparing prices of today to prices in the past.

Cheap should be comparing current prices to prices in future.

Just saying!

[furrowtickler]

NW SK some $160.00+ was inked recently...not that far from Furrow

Lots of rumours swirling the past two weeks .
West of here I would imagine, in the banana belt ?
Consistent timely rains make for brave individuals. 60 bus canola over 45 bus canola at $20 gives one a tremendously different outlook . As does the 45 over less than 30 east of here .
Was rumours in this area but I think a lot of “fishing” going on . Watching rains go by does not install a lot of confidence to significantly increase the risk for us , Each to their own.
Time will tell in this area , at those rates it may be time to become a wealthy landlord and offload the tremendous risk . Working hard with massive risk and stress levels to make others wealthy not appealing at over 50 . Add in the barrage of environmental restrictions about to come to farms from the liberals and not sure where this will all end up ?
Maybe buy a few camels 🐪 and do some crop scouting from here and east , collect rent, avoid carbon tax and crazy expensive diesel.

The big question is how long will grain prices support this risk ? Just inking $160 plus means they are paying 30% more for fertilizer and other inputs on new dirt from just a few months ago .
Maybe we won’t ever go back to $5 wheat and $10 canola ?
Sit, wait and watch for us at this time . It may be the new norm , time will tell .

[LWeber]

Lots of rumours swirling the past two weeks .
West of here I would imagine, in the banana belt ? YES

The big question is how long will grain prices support this risk ? Just inking $160 plus means they are paying 30% more for fertilizer and other inputs on new dirt from just a few months ago .
Maybe we won’t ever go back to $5 wheat and $10 canola ?
Sit, wait and watch for us at this time . It may be the new norm , time will tell .

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/09/09/fact-sheet-biden-administration-advances-the-future-of-sustainable-fuels-in-american-aviation/

Old news... but the effects are tremendous on vegetable oil usage. It is only 8 years away.
In my best Garth: Live in the now - The problem for canola will be the crushers will be the only game in town come January/Feb.

• A new Sustainable Aviation Fuel Grand Challenge to inspire the dramatic increase in the production of sustainable aviation fuels to at least 3 billion gallons per year by 2030;
• New and ongoing funding opportunities to support sustainable aviation fuel projects and fuel producers totaling up to $4.3 billion;
• An increase in R&D activities to demonstrate new technologies that can achieve at least a 30% improvement in aircraft fuel efficiency;
• Efforts to improve air traffic and airport efficiency to reduce fuel use, eliminate lead exposure, and ensure cleaner air in and around airports; and
• The demonstration of U.S. leadership both internationally and through the federal example.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

eliminate lead exposure, and ensure cleaner air in and around airports;

Learn something everyday. I did not know that lead was still used in aviation fuel. Or that sustainable aviation fuel can eliminate that lead, the same way it does with ethanol replacing lead and MTBE.

Hard to believe that we have been waging a war on completely harmless CO2( plant food) while still allowing aircraft to pollute the skies with lead whose health consequences are dire and have been known for centuries. There literally is no known safe exposure limit for lead. So we put into an internal combustion engine and disperse it into the atmosphere where its residence time in the broader environment is measured in centuries. Then wonder why we are losing the was on cancer.

While I question the sustainability and economic feasibility claims of biofuels, this is one argument in favour of biofuels that cannot be refuted.

[Guest]

Grow canolie for $280 ac throw in another $100 cash rent … priceless!!

Work real hard for nothing!!

Those Andjelics of the world need to take a long cold bath one of these yrs. But again, farmers are to blame again feeding him what he wants.

you better update that $280? !!!!!!!